Hopper3 Manual

[HipKat]

Is the Wireless Joey problematic? Bugs? Interference with house wifi systems?

Ok, please bear with me here . . .

Right now there are two coax cables from my roof dish. One coax cable goes to one end of the house, the other coax cable goes to the other end of the house. They both drive old DVR 625s. My house has no basement or attic. The coax cables are run around the periphery of the house, well hidden from view. The two TVs are about 90 feet apart and several walls. In order to have a wired Joey it would have to look like this:

- New roof dish antenna (HD) and switch(es)
- One coax cable would come into the house (as it already does) and be attached to the Hopper.
- A new coax cable would then come out of the Hopper and go back outside and up on the roof where it would be attached to the existing coax cable which then could go along the periphery of the house (as it already does) to the Joey.

You don't need a Wireless Joey if there is coax going to that location. Wired is always better and do NOT let them put a Super Joey in. They're garbage

 

[BarnRat]

You don't need a Wireless Joey if there is coax going to that location. Wired is always better and do NOT let them put a Super Joey in. They're garbage

OK, now which is preferable? Using two Hopper 3s or using one Hopper 3 and one wired Joey 3? I'm sure the two Hopper 3 config is more expensive but how much more . . . ?

 

[ethanlerma]

Is the Wireless Joey problematic? Bugs? Interference with house wifi systems?

It works fine in a clean wireless environment, which is virtually impossible. It uses standard 5GHz WiFi, so if you have many 5GHz devices and signals being broadcasted in the area it may be a problem.

- A new coax cable would then come out of the Hopper and go back outside and up on the roof where it would be attached to the existing coax cable which then could go along the periphery of the house (as it already does) to the Joey.

You actually do not need a direct connection to the Hopper for a Joey to work, unlike TV2 connections like you have now. A Solo Hub can be utilized on the outside of your home that will provide a connection for one Hopper and two wired Joeys. So the same cable feeding the second 625 cable can be used as is.

OK, now which is preferable? Using two Hopper 3s or using one Hopper 3 and one wired Joey 3? I'm sure the two Hopper 3 config is more expensive but how much more . . . ?

For simplicity and cost effectiveness, one Hopper3 and Joey3 is better. You will have 16 tuners to play with, 2TB of hard drive space (compared to the 250 or 320gb you might have now), and more importantly, both receivers will be able to play and record from the same DVR library. This is due to the Joey just acting as a client, or think about it as another head to the Hopper. So no more guessing what DVR recorded what, and any necessary separation can be done with folders.

 

[HipKat]

OK, now which is preferable? Using two Hopper 3s or using one Hopper 3 and one wired Joey 3? I'm sure the two Hopper 3 config is more expensive but how much more . . . ?

You don't need two Hopper 3's unless you have more than 6 TV's and you and your wife can't handle using the same system. Not to mention, Dish will not create a Work Order for 2 of them, you'd have to buy one from a retailer.
1 Hopper will run 6 TV's and has 16 tuners with 2 TB's of storage.

 

[BarnRat]

You don't need two Hopper 3's unless you have more than 6 TV's and you and your wife can't handle using the same system. Not to mention, Dish will not create a Work Order for 2 of them, you'd have to buy one from a retailer.
1 Hopper will run 6 TV's and has 16 tuners with 2 TB's of storage.

OK, thanks. Looks like my only two real choices are either a (1) Hopper 3 and Wired Joey 3 or (2) Hopper 3 and Wireless Joey 3.

 

[Bobby]

OK, thanks. Looks like my only two real choices are either a (1) Hopper 3 and Wired Joey 3 or (2) Hopper 3 and Wireless Joey 3.

And your real option is to go with the Joey 3 using the configuration that HipKat suggested. Don't even consider the Wireless Joey if you already have the wiring set up for the Joey location.

 

[HipKat]

OK, thanks. Looks like my only two real choices are either a (1) Hopper 3 and Wired Joey 3 or (2) Hopper 3 and Wireless Joey 3.

There is no Wireless Joey 3. It's just a Wireless Joey. The Joey 3, which uses coax is FAR superior

 

[BarnRat]

OK, I'm there. Hopper 3 and Joey 3. Whew!!!

Thanks to all!

 

[BarnRat]

It works fine in a clean wireless environment, which is virtually impossible. It uses standard 5GHz WiFi, so if you have many 5GHz devices and signals being broadcasted in the area it may be a problem.

I just looked at the specs on my Netgear WiFi router: It has 3 bands, one 2.4 ghz band and two 5 ghz bands. This looks like it may cause a problem with the Wireless Joey? Another reason to go wired Joey?!

 

[Bobby]

I just looked at the specs on my Netgear WiFi router: It has 3 bands, one 2.4 ghz band and two 5 ghz bands. This looks like it may cause a problem with the Wireless Joey? Another reason to go wired Joey?!

Just forget the wireless Joey and go with your already wired location with a Joey 3.

 

[BarnRat]

Just forget the wireless Joey and go with your already wired location with a Joey 3.

Yes sir. That's the plan. I'll be calling Dish Support today to ensure that the installation tech brings that hdw with him.

BTW, I did find this helpful info (user manual) on the Dish website (you have to be logged into your account): https://my.dish.com/support/products/hopper/how-to

 

[HipKat]

Yes sir. That's the plan. I'll be calling Dish Support today to ensure that the installation tech brings that hdw with him.

BTW, I did find this helpful info (user manual) on the Dish website: https://my.dish.com/support/products/hopper/how-to

Just a note for anybody reading because I see this come up a lot but Dish Network technicians drive vans that are equipped with enough equipment to work for a week doing any type of install so you don’t have to call Dish to remind the tech to bring a Joey three, he probably has 20 on his van.

If the work order is set for a wireless Joey, when your technician arrives, just tell him to modify it to a Joey three. All it takes is a three minute phone call to our Frontline support

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

You will get a Dish 54.0 remote not the touch pad remote.

I still have a few of the Touch pad Remotes. Lol!

 

[BarnRat]

Be aware that the remote depicted in this literature is NOT the remote you will receive.

You will get a Dish 54.0 remote not the touch pad remote.

I was a bit curious about that. My wife got one of Apple's touch pad remotes when I hooked up her Apple TV and she HATED it. I have to admit it wasn't the easiest thing to use. I had to get a replacement remote for her from Amazon -- a remote for old folks.

 

[BarnRat]

Just a note for anybody reading because I see this come up a lot but Dish Network technicians drive vans that are equipped with enough equipment to work for a week doing any type of install so you don’t have to call Dish to remind the tech to bring a Joey three, he probably has 20 on his van.

If the work order is set for a wireless Joey, when your technician arrives, just tell him to modify it to a Joey three. All it takes is a three minute phone call to our Frontline support

I am assuming that Dish will install the latest hardware (Hopper 3) and not a back-leveled model. This is a free upgrade for me since they haven't been to my house in 9 years -- that's when they installed a new DVR 625 for my wife's TV. I'm hoping that since this is a free install (for me) that Dish won't try to "use up" their stock of older hardware.

 

[BarnRat]

I went ahead and called Dish about my upcoming free upgrade and they had planned on giving me a Hopper 2 plus Wireless Joey. I told them to instead bring out a Hopper 3 and Joey 3 and that cost me an additional $100 since the free upgrade was only for a Hopper 2. I told them that that was fine -- the $100 was worth it to get the latest hardware.

 

[Bobby]

I went ahead and called Dish about my upcoming free upgrade and they had planned on giving me a Hopper 2 plus Wireless Joey. I told them to instead bring out a Hopper 3 and Joey 3 and that cost me an additional $100 since the free upgrade was only for a Hopper 2. I told them that that was fine -- the $100 was worth it to get the latest hardware.

Excellent! That $100 is money well spent. Many, many years ago I paid $100 for an upgrade to a 722 in place of of a 612 that they wanted to install. I never regretted that.

 

[BarnRat]

Excellent! That $100 is money well spent. Many, many years ago I paid $100 for an upgrade to a 722 in place of of a 612 that they wanted to install. I never regretted that.

Yes, I have you guys here to thank for my decision. Thanks!!

 

[charlesrshell]

Yes, I have you guys here to thank for my decision. Thanks!!

You are did the best decision getting the H3 & J3. They are awesome. Good luck to you.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

The Hopper 3 is world ahead of the Hopper 2. Having 16 Tuners and all that power is amazing.