I have a home about 22 years older than his. But you do what you need to do to be a part of THIS world.
Hopper - will 3 tuners be enough?
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Well, you try your best but sometimes it can be very tough to please everyone. I had a customer complain today that the discount for the first 12 months was not enough. He said that 1 year goes too fast and that Dish is screwing him. So we said get cable if satellite isn't for you. He said cable screws everyone too with their high prices. When done talking to him if what decided that he wouldn't be happy even if he got his programming for free. Just one of those guys, we all know one.
You are being kind using the "crap" word. My current merely 35yo light grey home had hideously ugly black dual cable draped all over the outside when I moved in. What was the installer thinking? First thing I did was tear it all down and make my new grey cables disappear 5' from the dish.
TheKrell said:
I wish Dish would let us still carry grey cable. That was so nice. Now its black outside and white inside only. :-(
I'd like 12 tuners, 6 OTA tuners, free sat service, free ISP service, and a million dollars a month, all at no cost to me......
Is it comfy, under that bridge?
With one tuner available for the "Big-4", most should(!) be happy with 3. I have 2 hoppers, but really it's because of the way things work(ed) prior to the real integration.
I have two, but I have 2 roommates none of us watch the same thing. It is more of an oppurtunity to for everyone to get what they want. I also pay for their Netflix, and everything else "home" related, all included in the cost of rent. Except food. They do not cook for me... so I do not buy their food...
I had 8 tuners 20 years ago and could have used more at times. Actually, my setup was a 10 foot dish with 4DTV and a stack of VCR's with 8-hour tapes in each. I would set it to a particular satellite for the time of day, then record all of the transponders I wanted on that sat. Switch to a different sat the next hour and record all the things on that sat, etc.
I could use the same thing with my Hopper.
I could use the same thing with my Hopper.
Biggest problem I am running into with one hopper on PTAT, and a second on standard 3tuner, is that back to back shows tie up 2 tuners for a period of time, and that leads to me having to re-juggle stuff or have the second viewing of something recorded because a 3rd show that starts at the same time has no tuner available.
What I'd like to see, is Dish soft-record or buffer record such that, when it has back to back recordings,
oh the wish to have the programming chops to take this on.
What I'd like to see, is Dish soft-record or buffer record such that, when it has back to back recordings,
- the timer is adjusted/extended to the end of the 2nd show,
- where the second show is to "begin" the recording buffer inserts a "show2 start" tag, (eg defaults for us are start 1 min early, end 2 mins late, as it seems MANY shows do this)
- And then where the end of the first show +overlap should be a "close Tag" is inserted into the buffer
- the buffering file manager, then starts a new Jpeg/data stream to the hard drive, writing out the first minute and continuing the 2nd show's write to disk operations, while it closes out the end of the first recording from the buffer to the "closeTag"..
oh the wish to have the programming chops to take this on.
Biggest problem I am running into with one hopper on PTAT, and a second on standard 3tuner, is that back to back shows tie up 2 tuners for a period of time, and that leads to me having to re-juggle stuff or have the second viewing of something recorded because a 3rd show that starts at the same time has no tuner available.
What I'd like to see, is Dish soft-record or buffer record such that, when it has back to back recordings,
... so 1 tuner, buffered to temp files as does now, and since the hoper *can* support 4 ~ 5 users, this shouldn't be too hard on the hard drive for accomplishing the multiple file read/write during that transition time.
- the timer is adjusted/extended to the end of the 2nd show,
- where the second show is to "begin" the recording buffer inserts a "show2 start" tag, (eg defaults for us are start 1 min early, end 2 mins late, as it seems MANY shows do this)
- And then where the end of the first show +overlap should be a "close Tag" is inserted into the buffer
- the buffering file manager, then starts a new Jpeg/data stream to the hard drive, writing out the first minute and continuing the 2nd show's write to disk operations, while it closes out the end of the first recording from the buffer to the "closeTag"..
Been discussing that lately herehttp://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/index.php?threads/Multiple-tuners-used-to-record-back-to-back-shows-on-same-channel.347210/
My biggest problem with the Hopper is the tiny 2 TB hard drive. Both my Hoppers are 98 to 100% full and most of my EHDs are full. Offering an external enclosure capable of holding 4? larger hard drives up to 6 TB each would allow some growth especially if they were all available/ accessible to record and view as if the were all internal to the Hopper.
2 TB HD is huge. We didn't even come close to filling it all the way up when we had Dish. We have DTV now and delete shows as we watch them. I miss the EHD Transfer option that we don't have.
2TB is not huge with 7 day PTAT or a good chunk of OTA recordings. Most hard drives are at least 4TB these days. There are now 6TB single drive EHD's. Dish needs to fix their 1000 program listing limit on EHD's and bump up the HWS hard drive to at least 4TB (6TB preferred).
2tb is the largest in the market for any MVPD. That said, you can increase it by adding as many EHDs as you want. Or you can go to DTV, and use their 1tb.
Most hard drives are 4TB? I just checked Best Buy and most everything they sell does not even come with 1 TB drives yet.
In the TV world is there even a provider that had 1 TB drives yet?
In addition DISH allows you to add external hard drives for unlimited storage space if you want it. Since DISH knows how much hard drive space everyone is using, I doubt there is a rush to upgrade to 4TB nor would we see them move that way unless 4TB matched the prices they are currently paying for 2TB drives. (Now the prices they pay for 2TB drives is MUCH different then what you and I would pay for the same drive)
In the TV world is there even a provider that had 1 TB drives yet?
In addition DISH allows you to add external hard drives for unlimited storage space if you want it. Since DISH knows how much hard drive space everyone is using, I doubt there is a rush to upgrade to 4TB nor would we see them move that way unless 4TB matched the prices they are currently paying for 2TB drives. (Now the prices they pay for 2TB drives is MUCH different then what you and I would pay for the same drive)
