Hopper Duo

The hard drive in your brand-spanking new Hopper "X" is "used" after a day/week/etc. If you have ever gotten a refurbished/replacement receiver from Dish, those are likely to have used HDDs as well. Even if it had an HDD failure which caused it's return to Dish, Dish may very well put a used, but tested, HDD right back in it.
Again, don't wake up DishSubLA... :shh :poke
 
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You mean something like a ... wait for it ... Charlie Chat? That would be a great idea! :bigok
He he!! Well, it was a pretty good place for some of the complaints that did slip through the screeners, and I did like on how the Chat and Tech Forum, they would acknowledge problems and state either they were attempting a fix or just say a aint gonna happen; no plans for that; we deiced it just wasn't working so we're moving on; or when Charlie would just say it is "too much money".

At least we knew what was what and we could all stop speculating or having false hopes. At lest they told us like it was (most of the time), and it was up to us to just deal with it and move on. Clarity! Acceptance! We would decide if we could live with it or go to the competition. Surly, like me, the vast majority just stayed with Dish, and partly because of those Chats and Forums when they cadidly told us some idea or feature is DEAD! How can we NOT love that.

Bring the Chat and Tech Forum back, even if it is only to tell what is NOT going to happen. Then Charlie of Mark (gone from Echostar now?) could expalin to us all the REAL reason they don't want two H3's on a single account and if they plan allow it some time later, or why we don't have EPG data for many of the OTA sub-channles.
 
Let me predict how that would go...Charlie and Jim won't know the answer, so they ask the "peanut gallery" that also doesn't know the answer. Then they announce your bill is going up and before you know it you've wasted an hour watching a show in SD that looks like it was filmed with a cheap camcorder from the 80's. :biggrin
I had forgotten about the peanut gallery, but sometmes the peanut gallery did know what was what and said so, but not often enough. Toward the end of the run though, the peanut gallery seemed to give the same out of the loop non-answer CSR's were given to say.
 
I believe so, yes. Also, my reply in that other thread was wrong, since it looks like a hybrid hub is required in order to add a Joey. Since you would only be using the Hopper Duo on one TV in your case, the hub should not be required, though.

Solo Hub IS required on all Hopper Duo installs whether using a dpp or dph lnb/switch. Doesn't matter if using a joey or not. Hubs filter out unwanted signal coming and going to lnb and moca network.
 
Sorry that your first post is wrong. Hubs are not necessary unless you're using a Joey.
Wrong. Hubs are always necessary. The Hub filters out some frequencies that can interfere with the Moca network. In a 1 room install that possibly means nothing, but DIsh training requires Hubs/Nodes on all Hopper family installs
 
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Wrong. Hubs are always necessary. The Hub filters out some frequencies that can interfere with the Moca network. In a 1 room install that possibly means nothing, but DIsh training requires Hubs/Nodes on all Hopper family installs

LOL Now that's funny. I guess all the Hoppers that are installed on 1 TV and all the ones installed with taps instead of nodes aren't really working, they just appear to be working fine, month in and month out. That includes 2 I have here.
 
Wrong. Hubs are always necessary. The Hub filters out some frequencies that can interfere with the Moca network. In a 1 room install that possibly means nothing, but DIsh training requires Hubs/Nodes on all Hopper family installs

If it's in the 'training' they probably put it there for people who are not able to think on their own.
 
LOL Now that's funny. I guess all the Hoppers that are installed on 1 TV and all the ones installed with taps instead of nodes aren't really working, they just appear to be working fine, month in and month out. That includes 2 I have here.
I totally agree and have installed plenty of 1 Room Hoppers without them and no problems. Just saying what the big wigs send out
 
I guess you must be able to think on your own. ;)
I try, although I've never done one with just a tap, even though we both have said a Hub is just a glorified tap. Seemed to me when they came out a Hybrid LNB was one that had, more or less, ther node technology built in (sort've but not really) making in essence port 1 the host, port 2 the client that can act as a 2nd host line - if that makes sense
 
I try, although I've never done one with just a tap, even though we both have said a Hub is just a glorified tap. Seemed to me when they came out a Hybrid LNB was one that had, more or less, ther node technology built in (sort've but not really) making in essence port 1 the host, port 2 the client that can act as a 2nd host line - if that makes sense

You lost me on port 2. :)

I've installed a bunch with taps only and they work great. There's dealers on the dishretailer forum that use taps all the time.
 
You lost me on port 2. :)

I've installed a bunch with taps only and they work great. There's dealers on the dishretailer forum that use taps all the time.
Port 2 on the DPH LNBF. So, if you imagine port 1 as a host output, in a single Hopper install, then the Hub is just a tap with an extra client output, right? In my weird way of thinking, port 2 on the LNB is where part of the Hybrid technology comes in, with 2 Hooper or Super Joey installs. Not saying this is exactly it, but it's what I think of when I first tried to figure it out
 
Things work fine using different install methods. Take my Hopper 3 system for example. I am using a Duo Hub and everything works fine. DISH says I should be using Solo Hubs.
 
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Port 2 on the DPH LNBF. So, if you imagine port 1 as a host output, in a single Hopper install, then the Hub is just a tap with an extra client output, right? In my weird way of thinking, port 2 on the LNB is where part of the Hybrid technology comes in, with 2 Hooper or Super Joey installs. Not saying this is exactly it, but it's what I think of when I first tried to figure it out

As you probably already know port 2 is disabled on a hybrid LNB when you connect a Hopper 3 to port 1.

And yes, AFAIK a Hub is just a tap with an extra client connector.
 
As you probably already know port 2 is disabled on a hybrid LNB when you connect a Hopper 3 to port 1.

And yes, AFAIK a Hub is just a tap with an extra client connector.
I think he was talking more about Super Joey installs for older Hoppers. It makes sense that port 2 would be disabled with a Hopper 3, since Hopper 3 does not support Super Joey.
 

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