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No one. The isolators will provide the option of keeping "separate networks" in your home where content can't be shared. Could be useful for parents/kids, roommates, elderly parents living there, etc.

Here is the diagram I linked to on page 1 of this thread from Scott's installation post.
Isolator diagram.
 
Claude Greiner said:
My biggest issue with the Hopper is that a huspand can be watching Porn in 1 room, and the wife can see that her huspand is watching porn from another room.

That right there is a deal breaker for alot of people. The second the huspand gets caught, the huspand is calling Directv to take the hopper out.
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Using Dish to watch porn? Unless you subscribe to the true porn channels, there really isn't that much porn. And if you do, wouldn't the wife see them in the guide?

I thought the computer was the best place to find porn and if the wife doesn't use the computer.......
 
I am quite happy that if I shift to Hopper, my Harmony One IR universal remote that is programmed for a ViP722 - will work without any changes whatsoever.
 
rglore said:
The top isolator is wired backwards on the above diagram.
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Ha ha, I didn't notice that. I thought the SAT was the the top output which would make the bottom setup backwards??? I guess I don't know since I have never seen a Dish isolator up close and the picture isn't detailed enough to tell. I am going by other isolators I have seen that had the SAT/cable pass through on top and the UHF on the bottom.
 
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I would assume that if you have channel locks, the kids could not see what you were watching unless they knew the password, all they would see is "locked event". Now as far as the adults go in the house that would be a different story.
 
SQUEEZON said:
Therefore will all the Hopper-Joey recievers have to be installed by Dish installer??
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joeys only cost $100 to buy outright. Let's say you wanted to add a joey later on, it might be just as cheap to just buy a joey and add it yourself considering that dish would probably charge a tech visit fee. (as long as you don't need any wiring or a different node)

Adding a hopper on the other hand might still be a better deal through dish since they would likely subsidize it under a two year contract.

If you're talking about the initial h/j install, then Dish install is the only way to go unless you have a lot of spare money to buy the equipment.
 
Claude Greiner said:
My biggest issue with the Hopper is that a huspand can be watching Porn in 1 room, and the wife can see that her huspand is watching porn from another room.

That right there is a deal breaker for alot of people. The second the huspand gets caught, the huspand is calling Directv to take the hopper out.

As far as the isolators, its for situations where you might have a single Dish sharing 2 Homes. Directv has got the same thing with the Band Stop Filters to prevent the MRV from backfeeding to other receivers on a different account.

As far as remotes being UHF, thats usually a positive unless a customer wants to use a universal remote.
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Me & my wife usually watch our porn TOGETHER! :eek: :D :eek: ...no, but seriously, I kind of like the idea of being able to see what's being viewed in the kids' rooms, though. :popcorn
 
SQUEEZON said:
In looking at the hook-up it occurs to me this might be too much for an average customer to hook up Therefore will all the Hopper-Joey recievers have to be installed by Dish installer??
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Much like the 922 is only dish installed.

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I would argue that for every guy who wants to watch porn BY HIMSELF without wife (or without wife knowing) (which implies a lot of issues all by itself) there are a dozen parents who would INSIST on knowing what their children are watching. This setup gives parents a LOT more control than two separate receivers would, which could be a major selling point.

Seriously, Claude, you're TRYING to find reasons not to like the Hopper/Joey. Arguing that they should base their design decisions around dysfunctional marriages seems a stretch to me.
 
Claude, who in the world pays their tv provider for porn? Plenty of it free over the internet and your wife will never know if you have your own laptop!
 
The big plus of UHF for the hopper over ir is that you do not direct line of site from your remote to the receiver. This is how your able to control TV2 when the receiver is in another room. The problem with the UHF remote now is you have to set a remote address for the UHF remote to the receiver. What this does is ties that remote to the receiver. Problem is if someone within 200 FT has the remote address the same as yours then you will see your channels changing randomly. With the new UHF remotes for the hopper and joey, the UHF remote will not have a remote address. Example, Susie has her remote address for tv2 set to 13. Stan, Susie's neighbor also has dish network and also has his TV2 UHF remote set to 13. Stan changes the channel and all of a sudden Susie's channel changes as well. If Stan's remote address was set to 10 instead then Susie and Stan would not be controlling each others tv.
 
DishTech.Mark said:
The big plus of UHF for the hopper over ir is that you do not direct line of site from your remote to the receiver. This is how your able to control TV2 when the receiver is in another room. The problem with the UHF remote now is you have to set a remote address for the UHF remote to the receiver. What this does is ties that remote to the receiver. Problem is if someone within 200 FT has the remote address the same as yours then you will see your channels changing randomly. With the new UHF remotes for the hopper and joey, the UHF remote will not have a remote address. Example, Susie has her remote address for tv2 set to 13. Stan, Susie's neighbor also has dish network and also has his TV2 UHF remote set to 13. Stan changes the channel and all of a sudden Susie's channel changes as well. If Stan's remote address was set to 10 instead then Susie and Stan would not be controlling each others tv.
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So how do they "mate?"
 
navychop said:
So how do they "mate?"
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Same as they do on a 922. Each remote has a MAC address (or equivalent, not sure it's a normal MAC). When the receivers on the system info screen pressing the SAT button on the remote broadcasts the pairing signal. The receiver then recognizes this MAC and the remote recognizes the receiver. This prevents them from ever responding to the wrong equipment.
 
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