Agreed - to them it is a job and most of them look for something else to do in their off time. To most of the people on this forum it is an interest so we obsess with it, like in my case, for short periods of time.I've talked casually with every installer that's done work at our home and my impression of every one of them is that once they clock out, they have no interest in satellite TV stuff. I don't mean that in a negative way either....