HomePlug built into the 622, How cool is that?

[RandallA]

You're right, they have homeplug switches too.

Netgear XE104 85Mbps 4port Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch - (eBay item 260165827787 end time Oct-29-07 19:52:49 PDT)

Hmm, I'm very tempted to go with this one even though they're refurbished units.

 

[Cyclone]

Can't believe I hadn't read this thread. Very good info here.

I was thinking about asking that it be made a sticky, but I really should just write it all up in a nice PDF and post that instead. I've just been too lazy.

 

[RandallA]

I was thinking about asking that it be made a sticky, but I really should just write it all up in a nice PDF and post that instead. I've just been too lazy.

You should. This should be a sticky because it's getting lost in all the posts.

 

[digiblur]

You're right, they have homeplug switches too.

Netgear XE104 85Mbps 4port Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch - (eBay item 260165827787 end time Oct-29-07 19:52:49 PDT)

Hmm, I'm very tempted to go with this one even though they're refurbished units.

The one I saw was like this... looks like a regular switch but the homeplug is built in.

Newegg.com - Actiontec HLE0850901 Up to 85Mbps MegaPlug 85 Mbps 4-Port Hub - Retail

 

[RandallA]

I went ahead and bought a couple of XE102s for $30.00 on eBay. Got them yesterday and they just simply worked out of the box. These are great although the throughput is only 3.5 mbps (according to Cnet's review), they will work for what I need them. Now to buy a small switch and I'm good to go.

TWO Netgear Wall-Plugged Bridges XE102 - (eBay item 120173457642 end time Oct-18-07 19:33:37 PDT)

 

[Cyclone]

Install the Netgear software (I downloaded it from their site) and you can get a likely speed measurement between the device and your 622. I have a picture of the software doing just that in one of my examples.

 

[stimpson]

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There is the drawback; Battery backups and Surge protectors which can block out the frequencies used to communicate over the power lines. The Dish Receivers and the PLIDs will usually have to be plugged directly into an outlet. I will however state that we do use regular old "power strips" here all the time for PLIDs. I kinda use the power strips as a "HUB" for the PLIDs. Cheap power strips seem to have little or no impact on throughput for these HomePlug PLIDs.

What kind of old power strips do you use? I would like to use the same stuff you have since we know it works for you. Thanks.

 

[Cyclone]

I have used a bunch of these from Staples.

Staples 6 Outlet/1045 Joule Surge Strip

Nothing too exciting.

 

[RandallA]

I have used a bunch of these from Staples.

Staples 6 Outlet/1045 Joule Surge Strip

Nothing too exciting.

I guess my question is, do they protect any electronics from power surges? I can definitely use one of these.

 

[stimpson]

If the more expensive surge protectors interfere with the home plugs ability to function properly and the cheap ones don't, I would think the level of protection in the cheaper ones is not that good. Could be wrong though.

 

[digiblur]

If the more expensive surge protectors interfere with the home plugs ability to function properly and the cheap ones don't, I would think the level of protection in the cheaper ones is not that good. Could be wrong though.

They may protect from surges but they don't employ the EMI/RF filters.

 

[RandallA]

They may protect from surges but they don't employ the EMI/RF filters.

I went to Staples to check them out, they're $15.79. I also checked the back and the label says that it does have EMI/RF protection something like 43 dB.

I passed on it since I can just buy a 14 ft. ethernet cable for $9.00 at Frys.

 

[B_Kranski]

My homeplug worked with my returned 622 and now my new 722, even though on differant breakers...however, I had to plug them directly into the wall because with the surge protector, they would stay connected, probley to much "noise"?

 

[Phoenix1]

My homeplug worked with my returned 622 and now my new 722, even though on differant breakers...however, I had to plug them directly into the wall because with the surge protector, they would (not) stay connected, probley to much "noise"?

No, the surge protector acts like a low pass filter and blocks the 2-30MHz HomePlug signal.

 

[peepoop]

Hey neat. I just checked my bill and it looks like that $5 phone line fee is FINALLY gone for good.

It took them a little over two months, but apparently HomePlug-connected receivers now officially qualify as 'connected'.

 

[Cyclone]

Sweet, I was waiting for someone to finally post that. Good to hear.

 

[vegassatellite]

Cyclone, you're gonna make me a rich man! I haven't explored DishComm or HomePlug but this opens up all kinds of upsells. I can sell the homeplug adapter, homeplug routers, multiple homeplugs for homeowners wanting secure networking, etc. I sell TII surge protectors which have homeplug so if a customer buys the homeplug adaptor but wants surge protection, he'll need to buy my surge and take that Monster back to the store. I've been doing so many 722 installs I can probably spike my average upsell with this. Now that I see that the phone line fee comes off with networking and that DOD is available, I can really push these things.

Most importantly, this ought to help with customer retention as Cox doesn't have VOD out here and none of their video stuff is broadband capable.

Would be awesome if DISH offered email that could be sent to your receiver and let you know onscreen you have email.

 

[Cyclone]

My consultant fees are very reasonable.

If the want security, then they will need to use a PLID at the 722 and the router. If security is not a concern, then one just at the router will work fine.

Good luck.

 

[vegassatellite]

My consultant fees are very reasonable.

If the want security, then they will need to use a PLID at the 722 and the router. If security is not a concern, then one just at the router will work fine.

Good luck.

I hope they are worried about security, just one more product to sell them.

 

[Phoenix1]

Actually the same security features available in stand alone HomePlug adapters are built into the 622 and 722 (It's built into the INT5200 chip in hardware). Echostar just needs to add some software to the receivers so that you can turn it on or provide the netword ID for the built-in HomePlug card so that you can turn it on over the network.