How to do 3 at once?? If I'm recording channel 177 and watching/recording channel 105 (i.e.) I can try to change channels but it says "your request will stop the tv recording and switch to live mode tv"
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The third one has to be from your antenna for over the air channels. For instance, if you are recording 177 and 105, and you have a channel 3 in your area from your antenna, you would go to guide, and pick the antenna over the air channel 3. It will let you go to that channel, and you can watch it or record it...
You have to have the OTA hooked up and then you can record an OTA channel in addition to the 2 satellite channels. You can also watch prerecorded programming off the hard drive while those 3 are recording.
Wow! Kinda lame, This would be a deal breaker for me. I gotta say dish's signal has been rock steady for me. The only time I lose it is during a bad summer time thunder storm. I never lose the signal during a snow storm as people warned me about with satellite T.V.
I was saying for satellite feed recording, if there was an extra fee for recording 2 additional feeds (4 total), then it would be better if it cost less than $6. $6 (for a 2nd receiver) is what you'd pay to get 2 more satellite feeds to record plus the use of all the other options of having a 2nd receiver (at least with some providers). I didn't think that the satellite providers would allow 4 recordings from satellite feeds for free, when they are limiting it to 2 feeds per receiver now. (I might not be exact on these details, but that's my experience/understanding). Hope that clarifies my breif post from earlier.
Although technology has changed since, I do remember Mark Jackson answering such a question on a Tech Forum about 4 or 5 years ago, at least, and he said they did, in fact, have a prototype of such multiple tuner DVR, but that in their testing (likely extreme testing ) they found the HDD was getting beat up and failing far sooner than the dual tuner units, so they ceased further research on such a DVR for all. Considering the Dish still has to replace DVR's when the HDD fails, they probably didn't like how this looked on the spreadsheet. The 722K with the MT2 being purchased and used for 3 or 4 tuner at one time recording is a feature being used by a very small number of subs, so the metrics are different and sustainable.
However, a true whole home DVR would have to have more than 2 tuners, one would think. Right now, the Moxi HD DVR has 3 tuners and in it's multi-room mode, the main box loses one of those tuners to the 2nd room. I don't know, but can today's HDD take heavy, and I mean heavy, DVR demands and use for up to 4 tuners and access by about 4 different people all at the same time, day after day, after day after big family use day and not fail TOO SOON.
However, a true whole home DVR would have to have more than 2 tuners, one would think. Right now, the Moxi HD DVR has 3 tuners and in it's multi-room mode, the main box loses one of those tuners to the 2nd room. I don't know, but can today's HDD take heavy, and I mean heavy, DVR demands and use for up to 4 tuners and access by about 4 different people all at the same time, day after day, after day after big family use day and not fail TOO SOON.
Knock on wood but mine has for 2 full yrs now. My contract is ending this month that's why I know how long I've had this 722k.
For their part, DIRECTV has been working on some manner of 5-6 tuner unit for around six years.
I envision two problems with what you're asking:
1. They can only send two tuners worth of signal using DPP. DIRECTV's scheme cuts out diplexing and backfeeding.
2. The higher frequency tuners are probably one of the most expensive components in the receiver because only satellite receivers use them. This puts a tare on the economies of scale.
I wish the DISH OTA tuners were of better quality. Even on my most reliable OTA channels (80 - 90 % SS) I get occasional dropouts while wathing recordings. Watching the same channels OTA on the TV, they seem to almost never dropout. I just picked up a reasonably inexpensive LG 32 inch LCD and it scanned several channels that none of my DISH receivers can scan and the channels stay on it rock solid. DISH OTA DVR on the other hand is always a crap shoot here and my wife gets very perturbed when a dropout cuts 20 seconds or so of her program (usually at a crucial moment). My point is DISH should really improve the quality of their OTA tuners or at least allow us the ability to purchase high quality OTA tuners for our equipment.
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I don't quite understand #1 here. I have one dish with the new LBN setup (don't know how to explain it exactly). I can record 4 shows at once (I think) from the satellites with 2 tuners on 2 receivers. What's the DPP or am I missing something?
I don't quite understand #1 here. I have one dish with the new LBN setup (don't know how to explain it exactly). I can record 4 shows at once (I think) from the satellites with 2 tuners on 2 receivers. What's the DPP or am I missing something?
If you don't have an amplifier in line that would be what I would suggest,because it seems even though your signal levels are high they need to be stabilized and a OTA amplifier would do that.
Might also be a good idea if you haven't already is to go to AntennaWeb or TV Fool and double check where your broadcast towers are and adjust your antenna to compensate for dropouts.
The only thing that an OTA amplifier will do for you is to compensate for cable losses over long runs of coax and or splitters. They won't stabilize a bad signal.
One of the biggest reasons the signal goes from fairly high to dropping out are due to reflections and this is caused by using a marginal antenna and/or antenna location. The way to solve it is to get an antenna that is going to work for the channel that you are trying to pick up. AntennaWeb and TVFool are good places to start that research.
One of the biggest reasons the signal goes from fairly high to dropping out are due to reflections and this is caused by using a marginal antenna and/or antenna location. The way to solve it is to get an antenna that is going to work for the channel that you are trying to pick up. AntennaWeb and TVFool are good places to start that research.
Or a preamp may help.
But heck, I'm glad we've got OTA tuners in our receivers. After all, Dish is a satellite company, doesn't make anything out of our using OTA.
But heck, I'm glad we've got OTA tuners in our receivers. After all, Dish is a satellite company, doesn't make anything out of our using OTA.
I partly agree. The antenna and location is the most important part. But you are wrong, there is no question, a signal that is not existent, or perhaps only sometimes exists, can be helped with an amplifier. I can get an out of state NBC station with the amplifier, I could rarely get it before I got one. It also stabilized a weak in-state signal that I got from my antenna, but the Sat box would not lock. Now it does.
I have had similar results using the antenna I use now(it's small) which is only rated for 30 miles,yet with a 25 db amplifier I'm pulling in signals from up to 80 miles away.
I have had large antennas with a rotor(which I hate) and small(4-bay) with an amplifier.Now I run this one which I have never seen before but I'm having very good results pulling in signals even though I'm in a severe mulitipath signal area.4 lines of signals crossing overhead.
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When I looked into U-Verse a year or so ago, yes you can record 4 shows at once but only 1 of those was HD. Can you do 4 HD at once now?
If you don't have an amplifier in line that would be what I would suggest,because it seems even though your signal levels are high they need to be stabilized and a OTA amplifier would do that.
Might also be a good idea if you haven't already is to go to AntennaWeb or TV Fool and double check where your broadcast towers are and adjust your antenna to compensate for dropouts.
I am currently running a Winegard HD-8200 (14 foot long) and Antennacraft XG91 through a Channel Master 7777 preamp. The problem is not signal. All of my HDTV's get plenty of signal even though I am about 50 miles from tower in miserable OTA location. When watching OTA on any of my HDTV's without the sat receiver in the chain there is no problem, it is only with my VIP722 and VIP612 that there are occasional "dropouts" even though SS is very high and steady. I attribute this to poor quality tuners. I guess I should not complain because the tuners don't cost extra (well maybe figured into the price of unit) and DISH does not charge extra for OTA, but if I could purchase a higher quality tuner and install it I would be over the top thankful. That's all I'm saying.
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