Thank you for trying to help me.
I tried the 2 suggestions, didn't work. The first when I punch 613 all I get is a subscription channel I don't have. I tried in menu and got system info. The second one when I punch in info 2x I got program info. As for suggestion in could be a demo loop, the tv is a kitchen tv about 15 yrs. old and I doubt it has a demo loop. I know tv is old but my grandchildren watch cartoons & DVR'd programs when they eat. If I tried doing it wrong please let me know. Question, is DVR'd a word? Again, thanks for the trouble, James....tarheel