I have tried many ways and sent my husband out to get a new DVD recorder. The only way I've gotten anything is using the YRW out 2 on the back of the DVR into the DVD recorder and then just so I can check I ran RYW from the DVD recorder into the TV but I was told I can plan on having the DVD recorder in the middle and expect to see the TV so I thought I could do my way and just record what's on the TV through the DVD recorder on faith and only check the recording on the TV later using a different source for inputting what I recorded. I know this makes no sense but am really frustrated I was with DirectTV for 18 years and like the block buster deal but if I can't record any movies I rent or pay per view then I may have to go back. Hope someone out there can help me!