HBO Max - WarnerMedia Announces Upcoming Streaming Service

[Bruce]

It seems likely that once people add up their broadband, wireless and OTT options, something is going to have to give as it rockets past a new small-car payment.

You bring up the costs of OTT Service as a negative but yet you do not bring up the high costs of Cable/Satelite which are a lot more then the OTT services, especially with the added on fees-boxes, locals, etc.

Something has given because of the high costs for Traditional Service, the loss of customers every quarter and the losses keep going up.



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[JTBenson]

Speaking only for myself, I don't think AT&T expects that customers will subscribe to both services and it wouldn't be a big stretch to suggest that DIRECTV Now isn't long for the world as AT&T seeks to reduce the number of seemingly self-competitive services.

DTN is a live TV option. HBO Max is an on-demand service. They are two distinct types of offerings. They are not competing services. AT&T may possibly rebrand, but I doubt they get completely out of live streaming. I also don't think they will integrate it within HBO Max.

 

[JTBenson]

You bring up the costs of OTT Service as a negative but yet you do not bring up the high costs of Cable/Satelite which are a lot more then the OTT services, especially with the added on fees-boxes, locals, etc.

Something has given because of the high costs for Traditional Service, the loss of customers every quarter and the losses keep going up.



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Agreed. First OTT is less than cable by itself. And even if OTT plus other streaming approaches the cost of cable, it is still better for several reasons:

1. There is WAY more content.
2. Much of it is available commercial free
3. You don't have to have cable boxes connected to a TV.
4. You can watch anywhere on any device. I watch TV on my 55'' in my living room. I watch on my iPad. I watch on my phone. (I know that you can do that with Dish, but it is a bit clunkier)
5. NO exposed wires. I have a Roku TV. I have a fire stick attached to it also. You can't see any wires going to it because they are all hidden. I will not go to any services that will require me to run wires to that TV.
6. No commitments. You can cancel at anytime you want. I have several services that I have subscribed to and then cancelled because I only wanted to watch one or two shows. There is much more flexibility.

Also, people who have cable are not giving up internet and cell phones, so the difference is between streaming and traditional ways to watch TV. The others are going to be costs that you tend to have anyway.

 

[NashGuy]

NashGuy - Any thoughts if DTN customers who have HBO will get this (either as part of the package or with a discount)?

It is *crystal clear* to me that AT&T sees HBO Max as the cornerstone of their video entertainment future. While they'll offer HBO Max as a standalone service, once it debuts, they won't allow any new customers to sign up for any of their cable TV services/packages without HBO Max being non-optionally included in the base price (just as Hulu doesn't sell anyone their "Live TV" package without non-optionally including the basic Hulu on-demand service too).

By the time that HBO Max debuts in early 2020, I expect that DirecTV Now will either be completely dead or no longer accepting new customers. Same holds true for AT&T Watch TV. But all of the channel packages on AT&T TV will automatically include HBO Max. Futhermore, I expect that all new subscribers on DirecTV satellite will be offered the same line-up of channel packages as those offered on AT&T TV, all of them including HBO Max.

AT&T has also stated that eventually (late 2020?) they will allow HBO Max customers to add live cable channel packages inside of that app too. I expect that these will be the same packages sold under the AT&T TV brand. The only difference will be the user interface of the apps. While the AT&T TV app will feature a more traditional look and feel (preferable to those used to a traditional cable or satellite TV box/DVR), the HBO Max app will feature a more modern on-demand-centric UI, like Hulu and Netflix.

 

[rad]

Looks like a bunch of BBC shows will be exclusive including Dr Who, 'Doctor Who' will be an HBO Max streaming exclusive in the US


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[MikeD-C05]

Looks like a bunch of BBC shows will be exclusive including Dr Who, 'Doctor Who' will be an HBO Max streaming exclusive in the US


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I wonder if that means you can see Dr. Who on HBO online apps or only on the new HBO MAX service? IF it exclusive I will have to say goodbye to Dr. Who after watching it since 05.

 

[Zookster]

I wonder if that means you can see Dr. Who on HBO online apps or only on the new HBO MAX service? IF it exclusive I will have to say goodbye to Dr. Who after watching it since 05.

New seasons will still air on BBC America. It's only the streaming of past seasons, including future seasons after airing on linear broadcast, that will stream exclusively on HBO Max.

 

[Howard Simmons]

New seasons will still air on BBC America. It's only the streaming of past seasons, including future seasons after airing on linear broadcast, that will stream exclusively on HBO Max.

The 12th season will be the last on BBC America after that it goes to HBO MAX according to this article if I read it right. ‘Doctor Who’ Heads to Streaming Service | TVWeek

 

[Bruce]

The 12th season will be the last on BBC America after that it goes to HBO MAX according to this article if I read it right. ‘Doctor Who’ Heads to Streaming Service | TVWeek

Nope, it will still air on BBCA, from the article-The deal also makes HBO Max the exclusive SVOD home of future seasons

SVOD-Subscription Video on Demand

BBCA still has regular broadcast rights, it will be like how it is now, BBCA airs first then after that Amazon will have it SVOD, now it will be HBO MAX instead.

 

[Zookster]

The 12th season will be the last on BBC America after that it goes to HBO MAX according to this article if I read it right. ‘Doctor Who’ Heads to Streaming Service | TVWeek

I got my info from the Variety article, which states:

The forthcoming WarnerMedia streaming platform has acquired the exclusive streaming rights to “Doctor Who,” with all 11 seasons of the historic BBC series coming to the service upon launch in spring 2020. The news comes as part of a deal with BBC studios which means the streamer will be the home of future “Doctor Who” seasons after they air on BBC America.

I've seen no indication that Dr. Who will be produced as an HBO Max original at any time in the future. If it were to be, they would have said so.

 

[Jimbo]

Looks like a bunch of BBC shows will be exclusive including Dr Who, 'Doctor Who' will be an HBO Max streaming exclusive in the US


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That sux ...
When these Big shows are set up to be exclusive, so you have to have each service just to see what you use to have with Cable/Sat ...

Its gonna be REALLY EXPENSIVE when all is done.

 

[Bruce]

That sux ...
When these Big shows are set up to be exclusive, so you have to have each service just to see what you use to have with Cable/Sat ...

Its gonna be REALLY EXPENSIVE when all is done.

Nope, still less expensive then Traditional Sat./Cable-

Hulu/ Disney+/ ESPN+-$12.99
Netflix-$15.99
ATT/Warner/ HBO-$17
CBS-$5.99
Amazon-$10

$61.97


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[Jimbo]

Nope, still less expensive then Traditional Sat./Cable-

Hulu/ Disney+/ ESPN+-$12.99
Netflix-$15.99
ATT/Warner/ HBO-$17
CBS-$5.99
Amazon-$10

$61.97


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And growing ....
Prices have been going up Big time on them ... ATT actually went up TWICE in the same year ...
I started with Netflix at $7.99, now its more than doubled to 15.99
I refuse to pay for a service for just 1 show ... I wanted to watch Discovery on CBS, but CBS decided they were better than everyone else and decided to NOT show it on NETWORK TV.

I seriously doubt that you get Hulu and Disney+ and ESPN for 12. a month.

Even Amazon went up from $99 to &129, at least you get more for your money with them, you get next day or 2 day shipping as well as Prime TV and Prime Music.

 

[Bruce]

And growing ....

Prices go up, just like they do with Traditional Service, I do not remember Cable or Satellite having a price freeze at any time.

Prices have been going up Big time on them ... ATT actually went up TWICE in the same year ...

Service has not even started yet, that is D-NOW, something I do not want or need.

I started with Netflix at $7.99, now its more than doubled to 15.99

And in that time frame they have added a ton more original content, most of it in 4K at that higher price point, if you do not want 4K the price is 12.99, SD is 8.99.

I refuse to pay for a service for just 1 show ... I wanted to watch Discovery on CBS, but CBS decided they were better than everyone else and decided to NOT show it on NETWORK TV.

Sub to it for just a month and then binge watch it when the season is done, we binge watch everything, love it.

I seriously doubt that you get Hulu and Disney+ and ESPN for 12. a month

You missed the news-https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/6/20757626/disney-plus-espn-hulu-bundle-price-date-streaming-service






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[Zookster]

That sux ...
When these Big shows are set up to be exclusive, so you have to have each service just to see what you use to have with Cable/Sat ...

Its gonna be REALLY EXPENSIVE when all is done.

As I posted above, new seasons of Dr. Who, Luther, and other BBC America shows will still air on linear broadcast. It's just the streaming rights for past seasons are moving to another service. This sort of thing has been going on since Hulu and Amazon Prime started building up their catalog years ago, poaching broadcast and cable network TV shows from Netflix. Nothing new. Just more services to pay for if you need access to past seasons of every series airing on linear broadcast, and even then, you can simply alternate services month to month.

Catching all the Netfilx, Hulu, CBS All Access, Disney+, etc. originals is another story. But again, nothing new when you consider the various premium cable channels have been producing high-quality originals going on two-plus decades.

Pay for what you want to watch when you want to watch it — truly whenever you want to watch it, if you can wait for each full season to finish airing before subscribing.

By the way, when new seasons of linear broadcast shows do end up on streaming services, it's usually because they are being saved from cancellation by that service.

 

[Ronnie-]

The positive with streaming options now, you can add and drop as your needs change.


Want Star Trek ? Add cbs, binge it, drop it.

So on and so forth.

I do see streaming getting more expensive, we all know it will. I don’t see it matching traditional providers anytime soon however, those prices are going up and have been for years.

 

[Joe h]

Hbo max will be doa if they don’t get the price lower than $15.

 

[Bobby]

Hbo max will be doa if they don’t get the price lower than $15.

HBO alone goes for $15 today. Add all of these other providers along with original programming, it's a steal.....

 

[Zookster]

This is obviously the new trend in streaming: value-added bundling of services. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the bigger fish started gobbling up the smaller fish, like Curiosity Stream, Crunchyroll, Britbox, Acorn, IndieFlix, MUBI, etc.

 

[harshness]

Want Star Trek ? Add cbs, binge it, drop it.

At the moment, the minimum term is 30 days for most services. I expect that the term will increase with time.

If you're binging a modern TV series, you can probably do it in two or three days but you are still on the hook for the rest of the month.

As disc sales begin to trail off (along with player manufacturing being shut down), there is some question of how long that option will be available.