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Claude Greiner said:
Do you save money owning your own equipment? Atleast with Comcast I can buy a TIVO and save on the rental charges.

Same applies on Directv, there is no point trying to own any satellite hardware.

As far as Charlie and his disputes, I used to stand behind everything the man used to say. There was a point where I would take a bullet for Charlie.

Consider this. Every February your rates go up with Dish, out of the 20 years I have been in this business, I can only remember once where they did not raise rates. I think that was back in 2001.

Every time there is a dispute we have up hear how Dish is fighting for you, saving money, looking out for the consumer Etc

The fact of the matter is that your rates are going up regardless in February. NOT once have I ever heard DISH was not raising rates because they won a programming dispute.

What these disputes amount to is over a few pennies per subscriber.

Do the math 2 cents per subscriber is $200,000/mo or $2.4 million dollars per year.

It's all a numbers game! As long as the projected revenue they make is more than the number of subscribers they caused to cancel it's a win win for Dish.

Your bill is going up anyways in a few months, so why deal With the irritation of missing channels?

Then they want to give you a small credit for the missing channel.

You see Dish post record profits while loosing subscribers. This is why.
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No, I don't save any money owning my equipment, but I do not lease, unless I have to. I own everything I use. I like my old trusty vip211k. It works fine with the outboard HDD and the OTA antenna. Perfect for an older single guy.I also like doing my own work. If I want to change out a dish, receiver, I do not have to wait for an install guy, and wonder if he aligned the dish well. I am picky, that way I rarely lose the signal because of rain fade. If Dish ups the rates come Feb, I am sure without Univision and HBO, many will be jumping ship. Streaming is the future for many. I am into that myself and if rates go up, I will probably cut down to a smaller package. As time goes on, I watch very little of the regular channels anyway, other than MSNBC, CNN, etc. The rest of my time I watch a commercial free movies. The ad load is so terrible now, I ask "Why am I paying for channels I never watch?" I used to watch a lot more of the regular, but too many ads. I have to figure out how to drop down from AT250 and still keep Encore as well as TMC. That is my issue. AT200 doesn't have those included. Add to that I have Amazon Prime, HBO stream, etc, so I do not need Dish as much as I used to. It may be pennies a subscriber, but too many pennies, and Dish will be in trouble. With the loss of too main services, this is not good.
 
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ncted said:
I think I have posted this before here, but my parents' Spectrum bill went up $20 last month, and their neighbor's bill went up almost $100. These are not deals expiring, this is base rate increases in markets where they have a monopoly. I'll pay a few dollars more a year to Dish, if that is the alternative.
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Provide specific examples of the rate increases with before and after prices please.

There was a $1-5 price increase on internet, $0.50 cents per cable box, $1 on the broadcast TV fee and $1 on the Spanish package. Anything beyond that were promos expiring or rate increases for those who are on Legacy Time Warner Cable pricing. So I'd be real interested in your explanation of the $20 or $100 increases, which are just not possible unless you fall into one of the two categories I mentioned.
 
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Here are the charter increases.

BTW, my HBO still works fine on DIRECTV and Comcast.
 
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Provide specific examples of the rate increases with before and after prices please.

There was a $1-5 price increase on internet, $0.50 cents per cable box, $1 on the broadcast TV fee and $1 on the Spanish package. Anything beyond that were promos expiring or rate increases for those who are on Legacy Time Warner Cable pricing. So I'd be real interested in your explanation of the $20 or $100 increases, which are just not possible unless you fall into one of the two categories I mentioned.
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Definitely not deals expiring in this case. I don't have specifics on the neighbor's bill, but my parents' bill went up $10 each for Internet and Phone, so $65 -> $75 for Internet and $25 -> $35 for phone (numbers rounded). The neighbor has been a TWC/Spectrum customer for over a decade, and is a TV customer in addition to phone and internet, so I expect that is where the majority of her increase is coming from. She may also be on a legacy TWC plan. Apparently the whole town is in an uproar over it, but there isn't much they can do besides switch to 6Mb ADSL2 from Frontier. edit: Frontier has had multiple weeks-long outages in the past few years, so there really is no other choice.

The cherry on top is the Internet speeds are still 30/5 where they live, despite all the advertising they see about hundreds of megabits. It doesn't really matter to them as they won't use the extra throughput, but it is kind of annoying to me.
 
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