Hardware setup for best 129 Signal in deep S. Texas w/ triple LNB

Dr_DX

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All,

Just looking for some personal experiences. I am looking to use a triple LNB setup to receive 110, 1119, and 129. I have a tough time getting 129. I am using a single 722K receiver with a single feedline to LNB. I am curious for your opinion on which hardware would give the best 129 signal:

1000.2
1000.4 WA
Plus Dish (new style polar plate) w/ a 1000.4 feedarm, bracket, and 1000.4 WA LNB
 
All,

Just looking for some personal experiences. I am looking to use a triple LNB setup to receive 110, 1119, and 129. I have a tough time getting 129. I am using a single 722K receiver with a single feedline to LNB. I am curious for your opinion on which hardware would give the best 129 signal:

1000.2
1000.4 WA
Plus Dish (new style polar plate) w/ a 1000.4 feedarm, bracket, and 1000.4 WA LNB
In Mexico try separate dishes.
 
Well, if he could find a 1k4WA LNB, he would get better signal due to the bigger dish size. I think those were discontinued, though.
 
I know they exist, but they must be rare. I have never heard or seen them until I came here back in March. Lol, stop learning me new stuff, my edumacation can only handle so much.
 
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I am in Mission, a little farther south and have no problem with our DPP 1000.2 (Winegard Trav'ler) It is a little higher because of the roof mount.
 
Well, if he could find a 1k4WA LNB, he would get better signal due to the bigger dish size. I think those were discontinued, though.
They were discontinued because they didn't work very well in some areas. My local dealer as 40 or so of them that DISH won't let him install because they don't work nearly as well as the 1000.2 for our area.

The angles are considerably wider in Texas so who knows?
 
I'm surprised by this. What exactly does "didn't work very well" mean? Lower SS? Do you suppose the LNB was engineered badly?
 
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I'm surprised by this. What exactly does "didn't work very well" mean? Lower SS? Do you suppose the LNB was engineered badly?
Didn't work well as in not yielding qualifying signal levels.

I expect that it has something to do with contours of the dish itself not being optimal for the different "wing slot" satellite intervals.
 
Well, if he could find a 1k4WA LNB, he would get better signal due to the bigger dish size. I think those were discontinued, though.

Which logically makes sense. I am also seeing posts (on other forums) that indicate the 1000.4 WA signal strength is 5~10 "units" (whatever that is) stronger than the 1000.2 WA SS is. Which is, to my understanding, why it was created in the first place, since it came out after the 1000.2 and has a larger dish, longer focal length, better polar plate, etc. BTW, I do have a 1000.4 feedarm, yoke, and WA LNBF.


But I am finding conflicting information about this. I have seen some posts like this:

They were discontinued because they didn't work very well in some areas. My local dealer as 40 or so of them that DISH won't let him install because they don't work nearly as well as the 1000.2 for our area.

The angles are considerably wider in Texas so who knows?

Which seem to indicate that the 1000.2 WA outperforms the 1000.4 WA (harshness isn't the only one that has said this).


I am currently using a 1000.2 WA and have "marginal" signal on 129 (maybe I need to try a different 1000.2 WA LNBF), I have to re-peak my dish every 6 months or so to keep from getting some of my HD's from falling out, and I am tired of doing that. I figured I might as well try to get the hardware that will give me the best 129 SS; hence my original question.

My requirements: reception for 110, 119, and 129 and use a LNBF w/ integrated switch

Logically, the larger the dish, assuming it is designed for the application, would give a higher SS. To that end, the following setups should generate the highest SS on 129 and still meet my requirements. They are from least to best (on paper).

Good = 1000.2 WA (already have - looking for something better, I think)

Better = 1000.4 WA (can get)

Best = DPP 1000 Plus (basically a DPP 500 Plus w/ a DP LNBF for 129) (can get)
or
1000.5 WA (basically a Dish Plus reflector, #183146 polar plate, using the 1000.4 feedarm, yoke, and WA LNBF) (can make)


I can crunch numbers with the best of them but, as we all know, what looks good on paper doesn't always work out in real life. So I am soliciting opinions from those with more "hands on" experience than I. In reality, if the 1000.2 produces just as good a SS as the others, then I don't need to waste $$$ on them. I'll just get a different 1000.2 WA LNBF and hope for the best.

Those opinions from the same area (S. Texas) that I am in, will be more pertinent to my situation, but all are appreciated.

Thank you to those that have responded and those that may.

Dr_DX
 
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Define "marginal" for 129. I'm in Houston, using a 1000.2 WA. I can't check the signals right now, but 129 had lower signals across the board compared to 110 and 119.

It's been almost a year since I installed the dish. It was the first time I'd ever set up such a thing, my compass broke half way through, the only signal meter I had was the DVR it's self, and the whole thing was set up in a semi-permanent fashion. Despite all of that, I haven't needed to re-peak.

However, rain fade has gotten a little worse over the year, and always during light rain fade, HD channels are the first to go while SD spotbeam locals are typically the last. (I don't know if the 129 HD local spotbeams use higher power or not, like some of the 110/119 spotbeams do)
 
If your signals are over 50 or so, you should be good to go. The relative reading compared to other slots really isn't all that important.

If your dish requires frequent re-pointing, it probably isn't mounted optimally.
 

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