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Fox Blocks Millions of DISH Customers
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Which is more likely-Fox asked for more money or Dish asked to pay less money?In any case I'm glad I have a computer hooked up to the tv.Amazing what you can find on the intrawebs with not much effort.
It's a process. If the channels never come back Dish will adjust prices accordingly to match the perceived value of the new landscape. To not do so would be business suicide.
What I don't get is why so many just lie down and take the extortion. Until a true free market is in place where the customers pay for the channels individually on their own merits, this is where we are. More and longer channel disputes.
Univision. The Latino Bonus Pack went from $10 to $5 while the channels were off.
It is a free market. people are free to stay or leave. Whining about it does nothing.
It's an oligopoly market and I'm not whining about it. It is what it is. The whiners are the ones that complain about channels being removed and don't leave. Then they whine that somehow people are defending Dish when they are just explaining the situation.
I saw this business model crashing and burning a long time ago.
I saw this business model crashing and burning a long time ago.
Well other then the fact that consumers are the reason corporations make money....
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They're not standing up for you. Corporations are in the business to make money, not have warm fuzzy feelings for customers. Pass the savings along to the consumer?
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According to this report, Fox offered to keep the channels on during negotiation, and Saint Dish refused.
Look, we all have to weigh the pros and cons of different providers. I came back to Dish from DirecTV because the Hopper 3 is still the best DVR on the market by a good margin. PTAT is nice to have, folders are very handy, and the company is generally pretty easy to deal with when it comes to service and billing, which DirecTV is most assuredly not, in my experience. However, since I came back, the compression seems to have become more aggressive and channel disputes have taken away many channels that I watch on a regular basis. You can call it "whining" if you want, but these are the factors that I as a consumer have to weigh. I'm lucky enough to have many choices where I live.
One other thing, according to this report, Fox offered to keep the channels on the air during negotiations, and Saint Dish refused. It's one report from one guy, so who knows how valid it is, but it's a data point in any case.
It's not that simple, and you know it. Many of us are under contract and would have to pay a substantial sum to leave.
Look, we all have to weigh the pros and cons of different providers. I came back to Dish from DirecTV because the Hopper 3 is still the best DVR on the market by a good margin. PTAT is nice to have, folders are very handy, and the company is generally pretty easy to deal with when it comes to service and billing, which DirecTV is most assuredly not, in my experience. However, since I came back, the compression seems to have become more aggressive and channel disputes have taken away many channels that I watch on a regular basis. You can call it "whining" if you want, but these are the factors that I as a consumer have to weigh. I'm lucky enough to have many choices where I live.
One other thing, according to this report, Fox offered to keep the channels on the air during negotiations, and Saint Dish refused. It's one report from one guy, so who knows how valid it is, but it's a data point in any case.
So you're making my point that it's not a free market. Contracts, forced bundling of subsidized channels, exclusivity agreements. You're right though, we all do what we have to do with the limited choices offered us.
FOX is choosing to pull its channels from our customers, which we think is unfair. FOX is demanding a double-digit percentage rate increase for continued carriage of its local channels. FOX is also attempting to “force bundle” it’s local channels with unrelated cable networks to get more money, and gain negotiating leverage. At it’s May investor day, FOX executives promoted their plan to increase retransmission revenue by 62 percent, to $2.6 billion by 2022. --Trisha R.
Yeah for sure, one thing I've learned you can't believe the propaganda from either side. The rate increase may have been so high for Dish customers +62% because they were already heavily discounted. Does Dish ever pass these great saving on to the customers? Last time I had Dish it was a flat $12 a month fee for everyone with the flex package option.
It's like when the landlord doubles your extremely discounted $500 a month lease, just because the original lease was so cheap doesn't mean it must be increased in small increments throughout.
You are choosing not to agree to their terms and pass those costs along to the customer. Again, how is this the customer's problem? Customers don't care what you think is "fair" or unfair.
You are asking people to sympathize with a corporate conglomerate. That's not a winning strategy.
I have yet to regret setting up a nice antenna system to get all of my Detroit majors. I don't hafta put up with this dispute crap, save $12 a month and get a WAY better picture.
I watched the Eagles and Packers 4th quarter last night. Faux's anti-Dish ads are obnoxious.
I watched the Eagles and Packers 4th quarter last night. Faux's anti-Dish ads are obnoxious.
Dish is going to go bankrupt over this crap. Football drives viewership more than anything else and losing B1G, Big12, & Pac12 games will be the final nail in the coffin. Before long their only option will be to merge with the skeleton of DirecTV and go down with the sinking ship together for a few years.
Yes, but contracts expire and Pac12 just might look at a providers history, say FOX, and decide that they would rather just keep their property in their own house. ESPN and FOX need Pac 12 more than the other way around.
If the channel owners offer to keep the channels on during negotiations and therefore out of contract (and I wonder what strings are attached to such an offer), then those channels are still making them money, whereas, if the MVPD refuses to allow out-of-contract carriage, it hurts the channel owners revenue stream, and, it avoids any perception that the MVPD should owe the channel owners monies for carriage of the channels during the negotiations. There is little incentive for the MVPD to go along with such an offer, especially now that pretty much every MVPD is having regular disputes. They want to negotiate from the strongest possible position. Customer dissatisfaction is just part of the landscape now either due to carriage disputes or prices increases, so pick your poison.
Bundling is the problem. I don't usually buy bundles in other goods I buy like groceries, furniture, hardware, software, etc. I Know the price of each item I will buy and chose the ones I want at the price I can afford. Each channel should have a separate price and I will chose the ones I want. The argument that bundles are cheaper is erroneous. If each channel in the bundle had a bundle price of $1 and I must take 40 channels for a cost of $40,it is not a good deal if the individual channel cost is $5 and I only want 2 of them for total cost of $10. The channel cost would have to exceed $20 to make the bundle a good deal for me. I would then decide if that is a fair price for me. Most Likely I would decline. Streaming is becoming more like regular shopping without massive bundles.
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