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Fortec star 100cm - lnb linear ku - signal between 72%-79% but quality always 0%
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The flash update did nothing to help.
Still never getting any Quality ever.
Settings:
Pole very level and plumb.
sattelite (97W)Galaxy19
lnb power on
lnb freq 9750/10600 (as shown on the lnb)
22khz off (greyed out)
TP 12152 SR 20000 H
adjusted elevation, azimuth and skew precisely according to dishpointer
also fined tuned with a sat finder
cable is tested and I can hear the buzzer of the sat finder
I tried the blind scan but my scan was stopped around 12061 by sudden rain coming from north west. It was raining and covered in an instant so I had to take cover (in order not to get killed by lightning...). Nothing was found during that amount of time.
I think I will borrow a viewsat ultra from a friend. Also I will try to get the store to let me upgrade my fortec star universal lnb to a Invacom SNH-031 Universal Single Output LNB.
Not sure in what order yet. Any recommendations about the invacom? (lak7, I checked your link and it gives me the impression that the fortec star lnb might be odd or tricky to use, thanks for the link).
Thanks again.
The saga continues. (is this suppesed to be that tedious?)
Still never getting any Quality ever.
Settings:
Pole very level and plumb.
sattelite (97W)Galaxy19
lnb power on
lnb freq 9750/10600 (as shown on the lnb)
22khz off (greyed out)
TP 12152 SR 20000 H
adjusted elevation, azimuth and skew precisely according to dishpointer
also fined tuned with a sat finder
cable is tested and I can hear the buzzer of the sat finder
I tried the blind scan but my scan was stopped around 12061 by sudden rain coming from north west. It was raining and covered in an instant so I had to take cover (in order not to get killed by lightning...). Nothing was found during that amount of time.
I think I will borrow a viewsat ultra from a friend. Also I will try to get the store to let me upgrade my fortec star universal lnb to a Invacom SNH-031 Universal Single Output LNB.
Not sure in what order yet. Any recommendations about the invacom? (lak7, I checked your link and it gives me the impression that the fortec star lnb might be odd or tricky to use, thanks for the link).
Thanks again.
The saga continues. (is this suppesed to be that tedious?)
No it is not supposed to be that tedious....So I ask you and others here these questions.....
Could there enough a difference between your receiver box lnb setting of lnb freq 9750/10600 and the requirements for a 10750 lnb.... to keep you from getting a quality signal?
Can that difference of 150 off be enough between sucess and failure?
Can't the lnb setting be changed exactly to 10750 ?
Why can't you change the "universal" lnb frequency setting of 9750/10600 to 10750? Or to a single 10750.
Is your lnb capable of 10750 ? or only 10600 ?
I am still a NOOB in all of this, but it would seem to me that both the lnb and the receiver both have to be spot on to 10750 to get any quality signal. Or am I wrong?
I would assume if I was 150 off anything...my chances of receiving something would be diminished.
I agree, but on my viewsat pro, I dont have a setting for "lnb type" I only have a setting for "lnb power = on , lnb freq = 9750/10600 (so I assume if I select the later, it tells automatically the viewsat pro that this is a universal lnb)".
Viewsat has not answered my emails.
Is it possible that my viewsat pro is incompatible to the universal lnb?
Thanks
I just found another post of someone that is using a viewsat pro and had similar issue. I hope this is the solution for me. This is not logical though:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-ai...please-viewsat-pro-invacom-qph-031-setup.html
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-ai...please-viewsat-pro-invacom-qph-031-setup.html
I got my lnb exchanged.
I changed my cable to a pre-built RG-6 2300MHz 18awg.
My latest experiment is that I aligned my dish to Nimiq1 using a circular lnb, and dishpointer and a sattelite finder. I made sure I had signal and quality. Then I was able to get the epg and I was able to get a couple of channels that are not encrypted. So far, the setup worked. However, even at the best signal, I could only get 80% signal and 35% quality.
Anyway, in my second part of this experiment, I left the dish in this position and I changed tne lnb to my linear universal fortec lnb. I then added a new sat settings in my viewsat pro and added one tp. According to lyngsat, Galaxy 17 is at same position as nimiq1. I adjusted the skew then try a blind scan. However no channels were found.
Do you know why I would get such weak signals even on nimiq1?
I dont think my dish could be better aligned since I alligned it with my circular lnb to its best but even this is weak. I thought that nimiq1 was supposed to be a stronger signal than regular fta.
i have another dish that is 18inch and pointing to nimiq1 and on this one I have two black 3100 bell expressvu legal receivers on wich I get signal quality from 68% to 100% depending on the transponder.
I changed my cable to a pre-built RG-6 2300MHz 18awg.
My latest experiment is that I aligned my dish to Nimiq1 using a circular lnb, and dishpointer and a sattelite finder. I made sure I had signal and quality. Then I was able to get the epg and I was able to get a couple of channels that are not encrypted. So far, the setup worked. However, even at the best signal, I could only get 80% signal and 35% quality.
Anyway, in my second part of this experiment, I left the dish in this position and I changed tne lnb to my linear universal fortec lnb. I then added a new sat settings in my viewsat pro and added one tp. According to lyngsat, Galaxy 17 is at same position as nimiq1. I adjusted the skew then try a blind scan. However no channels were found.
Do you know why I would get such weak signals even on nimiq1?
I dont think my dish could be better aligned since I alligned it with my circular lnb to its best but even this is weak. I thought that nimiq1 was supposed to be a stronger signal than regular fta.
i have another dish that is 18inch and pointing to nimiq1 and on this one I have two black 3100 bell expressvu legal receivers on wich I get signal quality from 68% to 100% depending on the transponder.
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You should be able to get 100% Q on Nimiq (or close to it).
Did to push / pull on the Dish trying for more Q?
"Eyeball" your Dish, looking at the Rim, does it look warped, like a potato chip?
Did you properly skew the Linear LNB?
Did to push / pull on the Dish trying for more Q?
"Eyeball" your Dish, looking at the Rim, does it look warped, like a potato chip?
Did you properly skew the Linear LNB?
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Hi Lak7, The dish is new and I find it very straight and not warped. Here are a few pictures of my setup. Also, I added a zoom of the skew I set (21 deg clockwhise when standing behind the dish).
Thank you.
Hi Lak7, The dish is new and I find it very straight and not warped. Here are a few pictures of my setup. Also, I added a zoom of the skew I set (21 deg clockwhise when standing behind the dish).
Thank you.
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You do not need to Skew a Circular LNB, sorry for the confusion. I was asking about when you swapped out the Circular of the Linear.
Dishpointer.com shows 91 West with a Skew of 16.3 for Montreal.
You are right. I need to set the lnb at 16.3. I did test all 360deg using my old cable and sat finder. But now I will do a blind scan at 16.3 and with my new cable.
Thanks again, your answers are really fast!
Looking at your last Pic, the Dish looks to have a slight warp, but cameras can do weird things.
I looked at it on the roof and you are right, it is slightly curved. I dont know what to think of this yet but I will think of some tests to do (maybe try to bend it a bit). But even this I dont know if I will get much better results.
Today I tried with a second lnbf I had. I removed the plastic moldings and I inserted it in the lnb holder and put back the plastic cover and screw. See the attached pictures. I still get only 38% to 58% signal as opposed to 93% to 100% on my smaller 18inchs dish. Today I did not touch the alignement. I tested with my new cable.
Do you think that the lnb is improperly installed and this would explain the poor result?
Otherwise, this would mean my antenna is the problem?
Thanks. Hopefully I will sort this before the snow comes.
PS: the two last pictures are the line of sight of my antenna. One is taken from the mid upper part of the dish and the other one is taken in the center of the dish. The line of sight looks clear enough.
Today I tried with a second lnbf I had. I removed the plastic moldings and I inserted it in the lnb holder and put back the plastic cover and screw. See the attached pictures. I still get only 38% to 58% signal as opposed to 93% to 100% on my smaller 18inchs dish. Today I did not touch the alignement. I tested with my new cable.
Do you think that the lnb is improperly installed and this would explain the poor result?
Otherwise, this would mean my antenna is the problem?
Thanks. Hopefully I will sort this before the snow comes.
PS: the two last pictures are the line of sight of my antenna. One is taken from the mid upper part of the dish and the other one is taken in the center of the dish. The line of sight looks clear enough.
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Hello again. I made progress. I finally got quality out of my linear lnb.
Finally, after so much waiting...
(with circular lnb and Nimiq91)
Here is the thing though, I started to push slightly on the corner like LaK7 recommended and I was gaining only 1-4% quality to a max of 25% around. Then I unscrewed the lnb and tryed to move it around holding it in my hand. Then I was able to get a 75% quality but around 4 inches ahead of the lnb black holder! Weird.
(with linear universal lnb and Galaxy17)
Then I changed my lnb to univ and I tryed to get something. I was able to get signal (look at the picture to see how weird location I had to hold my lnb). I got quality but it was going erratically from 0-35% up and down but it very rarely stays in place.
I did blind scans (2-3) holding it with my hand but after the entire scan, I could not feel my hand and right foot.
I tryed to get anything when I move the arm close to where it should be and I cannot get any quality at all.
What next??
Thanks.
Hello again. I made progress. I finally got quality out of my linear lnb.
Finally, after so much waiting...
(with circular lnb and Nimiq91)
Here is the thing though, I started to push slightly on the corner like LaK7 recommended and I was gaining only 1-4% quality to a max of 25% around. Then I unscrewed the lnb and tryed to move it around holding it in my hand. Then I was able to get a 75% quality but around 4 inches ahead of the lnb black holder! Weird.
(with linear universal lnb and Galaxy17)
Then I changed my lnb to univ and I tryed to get something. I was able to get signal (look at the picture to see how weird location I had to hold my lnb). I got quality but it was going erratically from 0-35% up and down but it very rarely stays in place.
I did blind scans (2-3) holding it with my hand but after the entire scan, I could not feel my hand and right foot.
I tryed to get anything when I move the arm close to where it should be and I cannot get any quality at all.
What next??
Thanks.
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