FOOEY.... I lost LPB :-(

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at the bottom of the chart it says

" * BMAC subscription "

I have no clue what year that was...lemme do some looking (the other half of the page doesnt have a date either)

edit: after some research (all I remembered was it was in a thread about the past)....found it

the post says 1993
http://www.satelliteguys.us/943167-post17.html

that whole thread is some memories :)
 
at the bottom of the chart it says

" * BMAC subscription "

I have no clue what year that was...lemme do some looking (the other half of the page doesnt have a date either)

edit: after some research (all I remembered was it was in a thread about the past)....found it

the post says 1993
http://www.satelliteguys.us/943167-post17.html

that whole thread is some memories :)

OH, I see, I wasn't reading it right. I see the BMAC footnote now. I was seeing something up near the top that said VC1, but I see now that that was "Viewer's Choice 1", not Video Cipher..... duhh.

I'll have to scan a couple pages from one of my old Westsat charts. I have several of them from 91 thru 98, plus one commemorative one from 1981. They were really different from most of those programming type charts, as they had info on FM^2 and SCPC audio services as well as the video, and also information on transponders used for corporate purposes, etc, plus full lists of transponder freqs.
 
I scanned a few pages from the winter 92-93 issue. Scanned the cover, the page with Satcom K1, a page showing SCPC and subcarrier audio entries, a news page, a frequency page, and graphic charts showing the relative positions of the sats. I didn't scan the back page which has a similar graphic chart having both C and Ku on the same chart.

The SCPC freqs may seem strange, but they are based on the fact that many people who listened to SCPC used the so called "70 MHz loop" (some receivers used a different freq, like 140). The 70 MHz loop is a 40 MHz wide band taken from the IF, representing the channel that the receiver is tuned to. So the freqs are in the 50-90 MHz range. I used a receiver that tuned the IF directly, so I had to re-calculate those numbers. I think the numbers in the chart are based on the center of the transponder being 70 MHz.

Most of the 1990's charts are about 30+ pages long. The 1981 version was 1 folded piece of heavy paper, ie 4 pages.
 

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Oh man, you guy are bringing me back to the good old days of C-band TV DXing!!!

Dang, I just wish I can get 10 footer dish in my silly HOA neighborhood.:(

At least my new H TO H motor, will give me more new Eastern KU band birds east of 61.5*W......:hungry::hungry::hungry:

Will give the result tomorrow here in the good old New Mexico!!:hungry:
 
Oh man, you guy are bringing me back to the good old days of C-band TV DXing!!!

Dang, I just wish I can get 10 footer dish in my silly HOA neighborhood.:(

At least my new H TO H motor, will give me more new Eastern KU band birds east of 61.5*W......:hungry::hungry::hungry:

Will give the result tomorrow here in the good old New Mexico!!:hungry:

I'd like to see how you make out. I've never had much luck East of 72W. At that point the Sandia Mountains get in the way.

BTW I'm in NE Albuquerque.
 
I too am having problems with LPB. It was working fine before as I was watching the LPBHD channel on Thursday. I am getting good signal on all the other tp's but not getting anything on 12072. Nothing with the dish has changed.
 
I too am having problems with LPB. It was working fine before as I was watching the LPBHD channel on Thursday. I am getting good signal on all the other tp's but not getting anything on 12072. Nothing with the dish has changed.
Interesting. I was getting it fine on Thursday too, and it was Friday that I lost it.

Today I took my TV out to the dish so I could see a faster reacting signal meter. I moved that dish every which way (it's a fixed dish, so it's not an alignment issue) while peaked on 12150H, got that transponder as best that I could, but NOTHING on the LPB transponder.
Then, I noticed that I was no longer getting Montanna, which I was getting fine before. Weird I thought, as I was getting the nearby mpeg4 transponder? So I put the receiver on Montanna, and started searching again. With a few adjustments, I was getting a good signal on 12104. The signal on 12150 went down just a bit. Then I checked, and NOW, I was starting to pick up LPB on my TT3200. It was still rather weak, and I wasn't getting it on the Diamond at all, but at least I was getting it, and it was relatively solid, except when the wind blew (which I don't understand, because I'm 90% sure that my view is clear of the tree limbs, and the dish wasn't moving). So I went back out, and tried tuning up even better on 12104. My TV is overscanning, and it was cropping off my quality meter, so I started using signal instead of quality. I made a few adjustments, and noticed a significant increase in the 12104 "signal". Went inside, and had lost nearly everything. Then I noticed that although the signal had gone up significantly, the quality had gone down.
Went back out, and this time tried again to peak the quality as best I could without seeing the numbers, and I got all the channels back, except that LPB was only intermittant on the 3200 and not at all on the Diamond. I figured that was good enough, and quit. So it seems like I must be suffering from some interferrence that's affecting my signal and quality differently on different transponders. I guess that other people have reported thing like this on AMC21, but I thought it was interferrence from the adjacent Hughesnet transponders on the 30,000 SR transponders, which isn't what I was going for, so there must be other interferrence issues on this sat.
Either that, or the sat is closer to my maple tree than I thought. Because the leaves have about doubled in the past week. I think a week ago I was still getting AMC21 on one of my other dishes, but now it is completely gone on my other dishes. So maybe my survey was off. I located where to put my dish via the sun, using the shadow from a power pole, which I assumed was plumb. The tree in question was pretty much in line with the left edge of the tree, and I sited the dish a good 6 or 7 feet to the left of the shadow line when the sun was at the sat's longitude. That SHOULD have worked, but maybe I made a mistake. I hate to cut down maple trees, because I tap them for syrup, but I guess I have more trees than I can tap, so maybe it's more firewood coming up.
 
Well I try my new motor but for some strange reason it won't move west of true south.:(

The model brand is called Power Tech DG-380.

I had no choices and put my old motor back in with help of my satellite instaler.

In the meantime, I will tinker with my new motor to see what's makes it ticks and hoply I will try to DX some more new birds east of 61.5*W here in Albuquerque!!:hungry:

It will be awhile before I post it again.......
 
What size Primestar? I have a 1.2m CM/P* on AMC21 and LPB stays in the high 80's on quality all the time, on my Coolsat 8000.
I spoke too soon when I said it stays all the time.
Night before last, my LPB-HD began to pixelate- a little at first- and then got worse. Went outside to tweak the dish, and never could get it back!:mad:
Other PBS feeds are in the high 70's for quality. I've squeezed every bit of signal out of this dish, and still no more LPB. I wonder if their signal transmitting power has dropped?:confused: I can't try during the day 'till Saturday when I'm off work.
 
...and now it's back

All my LPB feeds are working fine now..HD and SD at about 65% Q on the Coolsat 8000! :eek: ...I guess I'll do like everyone else and watch it if it's there and not when it isn't. :rolleyes:
 
...And now at this later hour, all the main PBS feeds- HD, Create, V-Me etc. are at 90 to 99% quality and LPB is fluctuating wildly- up to 50% and back down to 0-1% and then back up to 50%....really strange. :confused:
 
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