I went the local dealer route. I ordered around the beginning of December so inspite of some of the stories on here, I think I got it pretty quick. I was debating for a day or so to either call dish or the local dealer. Dealer is the way to go. I got the same deal, 811 +301 and got a really good company. I think the overall communication is better with a local dealer because they will also be doing the install. They didn't schedule the installation until they had some in stock. I wasn't given a block of time, I actually got the exact time! After having directv for some time, then timewarner, now dish... the pq is really pretty good. Yea if you look really hard on some of the channels it looks a little blocky but mostly it pretty clear. I think the guide is faster than digital cable and tuning is a lot better than my hd cable box. I have a signal combiner so I was able to put the 301 in the basement and broadcast to channel 4 on my other tv's that do not need hd and use my OTA for the locals. After actually playing with the 811 now for about a day, I do find it pretty buggy. The guide video only displays about half the time. Seems like if I stay in the guide on one channel for a couple mins the video appears and it's fine. The installer did a great job getting me hooked up with everything I needed to make a wholehouse RF remote. I just wanted to report a positive experience and to point out that the local dealer is probally the way to go if you can. I also want to say thanks to this forum for all the issues that you guys bring up and keep us all informed. It's really great to have a place to go for support and questions.