Final goal to have 6 TVs. What to do?

[Suppafreak]

I currently have a 622 and 722 and they are connected to individual TVs. I do not plan to split them to any other TVs, but my goal is to have 6 TVs. I own two 301s which I can use and will need another 311 for dual TVs because two rooms are adjacent and I can feed two TV with one receiver.

The 622 and 722 connected to the web so they call out, but the rest of the receivers will not be connected. My phone line setup through the VoIP and calling out using phone line will not work.

With this setup, will I more likely get calls fro the "Nazi" audit department?
Can I still use 301 receivers? (I am on the west coast).
Is there a better way to achieve the goal?

Thanks.

 

[CowboyDren]

Do you have to have all six TVs on at the same time? Do they all have to watch different channels [at the same time]? Where are the TVs, what are they? How many DVRs do you want?

Three 722s (two leased, one owned) will get your six discrete HD tuners (plus OTA), but they all have to be able to call home to keep the auditors at bay, and ethernet/broadband is acceptable to call home. The down side is that you're limited to three HD outputs and three SD outputs, unless you mirror the HD outputs to adjacent rooms. You can always mirror the den to the master bedroom, the game room to one of the kids' rooms, and so forth.

 

[rdinkel]

I have 6 TVs now. Four HD DVRs feed them: leased 722k, two leased 612, and one owned 622. Four of the HDTVs are receiving HD signal via HDMI from each respective DVR. Two smaller (19") flat-screen HDTVs are being fed in SD via house coax from two of the HD DVRs. Works well, since 19" sets in kitchen and guest bedroom still look good with the modulated outputs. All four HD DVRs are connected via broadband using HomePlug.

 

[Suppafreak]

Currently I have HDTV 622 in the bedroom and HDTV 722 in the living room. I want to keep them connected to 1 TV each so I can use tuners 1 and 2 for recording the shows. I have a regular TV (CRT) in the guest room, but it is not hooked up to anything at the moment. Additionally, I will put a TV in kitchen and two kids rooms. Those will be flat LCDs but not big ones. One of the kids room is adjacent to the guest room, so I can use the SD dual tuner TV. For the kitchen and other kid room I am planning to use 301 receivers.

Do I need to have 301s and 311 hooked to the phone line?

 

[CowboyDren]

If I were building your setup from scratch, I'd use a single 722K (living room and master) and a pair of 222K receivers, with the OTA modules in the 222s. One 222 would feed the guest (HD) and a kid (SD), the other 222 would feed the kitchen (HD) and a kid (SD)...or both kids on one and the kitchen/guest on the other. The 222 is a dual-tuner box, and each spot can watch their own program. Since you already have a 722 and a 622, you're at your leased tuner limit, so you're going to have to buy the 222s.

Just for reference, the 722 and 622 inputs (tuners) and outputs (TV1/TV2) are totally independent of each other. Unless you're a space hog like me (I rarely have more than 15 hours free) or you and your wife go to bed at separate times and both have HDTVs over 32", there's actually a pretty good argument for setting the 722 to feed both rooms...consolidate your recordings on one box. A 722 can record a total of 3 streams (including two OTA), and feed two TVs (one HD, one SD) previously-recorded programs. A 722K adds another OTA tuner. A 922 should be able to record 4 and push 3, each one 100% independent of the others. The main reason people pick Dish over DirecTV is that you can do more stuff with one box; take advantage of it!

You can use the 301 or 311, if you own it, but I'd strongly recommend that you just bite the bullet and spend the money on something that won't be completely and utterly obsolete in two years. You could trade the 722 up to a 722K and the 622 for a pair of 222s, if you only wanted to put up a little money. Any way you go, yes, all of the units will have to be plugged into some sort of network, be it telephone jack, ethernet jack, or homeplug. Otherwise E* is going to charge you for not having them connected ($7 each, last I checked) and you'll be an audit target.

 

[Suppafreak]

I would do all that, however, I do not have the wiring to attached two TVs to one receiver. I have four wires coming from dish to two DP44 switches and from the DP44 switches I have 6 wires going to various location in the house. The only place where I can use one receiver and two TVs is between the guest room and one of the kids rooms.

 

[CowboyDren]

You only need one cable from the switch to each receiver, even the 722 and 622. The '44 works with separators, so one wire from the '44 to a separator at each receiver. Since we're not talking about doing HD mirroring in most of these cases, use the agile modulator output from the receiver with a diplexer to backfeed the signal every which way. For three boxes, pick three channels (21, 25, 29, for example) and set each TV2 output to one of those channels. Then at each of the three terminals, you could tune to any of the three boxes!

One box, more stuff!

 

[Suppafreak]

Are there diagrams how to do it?

 

[Suppafreak]

I think I found something.

This picture shows my current setup.

Now if I use the diplexers and connect all 6 TVs this way

Please tell me if this will work.

Also if this will work, will the recording on VIP622 or VIP722 be affected? Can I still record on tuner 1, 2 and 3 while second TVs are being watched?

I also would like to hook up the external antenna, but I guess I cannot do it with out running more cables through the walls as shown here http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departm...tal/images/pdf/tech/DistributionExample11.pdf

 

[CowboyDren]

Which tuner is available isn't material unless you configure it to matter. If one tuner is busy recording something, one output can request the free tuner or chase the tuner that's currently recording. Now if one box is recording, and one TV requests a live tuner, the second TV has to wait for either the recording or the live tuner to be freed, but it doesn't matter which happens first.

Yes, that should do it, except that you're missing a splitter at each receiver. It would be between the diplexer and the RF input and output of the receivers. (Three little boxes, a diplexer, a separator, and a splitter behind each receiver.)

Adding OTA would be add another layer of complexity, but it is technically possible. It's also technically possible to use a big splitter to combine the three modulated outputs so that 3, 4, 6 could tune to 1, 2, and 5, but again, that's complexity you don't need right now.

 

[Suppafreak]

I am not sure why do I need a splitter.

I believe my setup should be exactly like this one

http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departm...tal/images/pdf/tech/DistributionExample10.pdf

You maybe talking about this one

http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/images/pdf/tech/DistributionExample9.pdf

 

[CowboyDren]

My mistake; you only need the other splitter(s) if you're going to add OTA functionality to the receivers.

 

[Suppafreak]

Will this diplexer work?

a1Components - ASKA SCS2A 2-amp Diplexer for Dish Pro+, DNA