EF ECOFLOW Portable Power Station Delta 2, 1024Wh

[reubenray]

That could be the reason. Follow the coax back to the dish, and see what it all goes through. IF there's a powered switch, that'll also need to be on a UPS. That might fix you up.

The cable from the Dish on my roof comes down to a Hybrid Solo Hub and then it goes into the house. There is nothing after that.

 

[tjboston5676]

I would check the voltage actually being fed to the hopper. If it's too low it can cause the hopper to not send power to the lnb which would result in no signal. Also if there's any grounding on the solo hub or dish, it can also cause issues if theres other electrical issues.

 

[reubenray]

I would check the voltage actually being fed to the hopper. If it's too low it can cause the hopper to not send power to the lnb which would result in no signal. Also if there's any grounding on the solo hub or dish, it can also cause issues if theres other electrical issues.

I don't know how to check the voltage, but I can look at the solo hub to see if it is grounded or not.

 

[reubenray]

I would check the voltage actually being fed to the hopper. If it's too low it can cause the hopper to not send power to the lnb which would result in no signal. Also if there's any grounding on the solo hub or dish, it can also cause issues if theres other electrical issues.

There is a ground wire running from the solo hub to the main disconnect panel.

 

[primestar31]

There is a ground wire running from the solo hub to the main disconnect panel.

I would consider a UPS that's also an AVR. I've got two of them, the first one I bought way back in 2009, (due to our local power being very on/off/brownouts back then, so why I needed an AVR version) and it's still running perfectly. Though I don't also have an Ecoflow, I DO run these UPS's on a diesel generator during power outages, and I've NEVER had any issues with my electronics acting up since they were installed. The older models I have are discontinued, but here's the newest one. You can also replace the batteries when they need replacement in like 5 years or so:

https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500AVRLCD3-Intelligent-System-Outlets/dp/B0BCMLLSHL

You might not need a bigger model like mine are, but for sure consider an AVR version. It's better for electronics.

 

[reubenray]

I would consider a UPS that's also an AVR. I've got two of them, the first one I bought way back in 2009, (due to our local power being very on/off/brownouts back then, so why I needed an AVR version) and it's still running perfectly. Though I don't also have an Ecoflow, I DO run these UPS's on a diesel generator during power outages, and I've NEVER had any issues with my electronics acting up since they were installed. The older models I have are discontinued, but here's the newest one. You can also replace the batteries when they need replacement in like 5 years or so:

https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500AVRLCD3-Intelligent-System-Outlets/dp/B0BCMLLSHL

You might not need a bigger model like mine are, but for sure consider an AVR version. It's better for electronics.

In a few weeks I will get a transfer switch installed for a bigger EcoFlow product. I will test it then. I can also fire up my generator that will be connected via an interlock to see if the H3 will work then. I have a bigger and older AVR UPS that will not fit in my home entertainment center. The new ones you linked will fit.

 

[primestar31]

In a few weeks I will get a transfer switch installed for a bigger EcoFlow product. I will test it then. I can also fire up my generator that will be connected via an interlock to see if the H3 will work then. I have a bigger and older AVR UPS that will not fit in my home entertainment center. The new ones you linked will fit.

My Gillette 6kw diesel generator, is plugged into my electrical panel through a 30amp 220volt breaker, and on a manual interlock system. Power goes out, I start the generator and let it warm up a few minutes. I then flip OFF the main breaker, which then allows me to move the blocking interlock lever from the generator breaker, which I then flip ON.

I then also turn on the switch for THIS, and it screams (loud enough I have to wear earplugs to approach and turn it back off) when city power comes BACK: https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Controls-Corporation-THP108-PowerBACK/dp/B003KREORA

 

[tjboston5676]

I don't know how to check the voltage, but I can look at the solo hub to see if it is grounded or not.

Not saying to do it permanently but disconnect the ground and see if it fixes the issue.

Also if there's a ground from hub to the service disconnect then there should also be a black wire on the other ground terminal on hub that's comes from the coax cable going to dish. And other end should be connected to the mount the dish is on.

 

[reubenray]

Not saying to do it permanently but disconnect the ground and see if it fixes the issue.

Also if there's a ground from hub to the service disconnect then there should also be a black wire on the other ground terminal on hub that's comes from the coax cable going to dish. And other end should be connected to the mount the dish is on.

The problem has to be ground related. On an EcoFlow forum they are asking if the power station is plugged in to an A/C outlet. It was not. I will play with it more today.

My Dish is on the roof over 15' above the ground. I can't see if there is a ground wire up there.

 

[reubenray]

This is a response I got from an EcoFlow forum. I will try this to see if it will work.

If the device requires a grounded circuit that would make sense then because the power station has only has a floating neutral. Get a neutral ground bonding plug from Amazon and that will resolve any grounding issues.

 

[Foxbat]

I get nervous when people who don’t understand home electrical systems start messing around with their AC power. Bonding the Neutral to Ground at any point outside of the Electrical Panel is asking for Ground Loops or worse, an electrical shock when the case of a properly-grounded device becomes energized due to the Neutral side being pulled up from Ground potential in normal use.

The EcoFlow may be a special case since it is designed to operate separate from home power. I'd be curious to see how a normal UPS is wired compared to the EcoFlow. I think TheForce ran into something similar with his Nissan or Tesla EVSE when he first started his charging experience. He had to "fool" the EVSE into thinking it was plugged into a normal outlet by shorting the Neutral and Ground together.

 

[arlo]

Wow. Trying to follow this thread is difficult. We don't know how to measure voltage. Trying to get a house ready for shtf. Not exactly sure of the model of UPS. And theoretical wiring diagrams and configurations out in the ethers.
Let's try this. Scribble your current wiring and connection map down and slap it up here. I don't care. On a piece of tp, napkin, speeding ticket, mensa application.
I'm very sure there is a viable explanation. The EXACT UPS model you're using. Listen up.
I have an APC UPS with a smart outlet. And a Monster smart power strip. Not saying you have anything remotely similar. But still.

My APC has my desktop PC plugged into the master outlet. All the other crap is either on the slave outlets or on a good power strip on one of the slaves. PC on, monitor, speakers. Everything else comes on too. PC off. Everything shuts off too, the UPS idles down.
And the Monster is the same. My HT receiver is on the master outlet. Everything else.....I think you get it.
So. Cyber Power What?
If you're going to do the shtf thing. You need two things. A bible. And a multimeter. Pretty sure my Simpson 260 will be EMP resistant.

Speaking of. Why haven't you just gotten a good power strip and plugged all of the string of satellite equipment into it?
Consider that a physicians method. If it hurts when you do something specific. Quit! lol.
....coffee

 

[TheForce]

I think @TheForce ran into something similar with his Nissan or Tesla EVSE when he first started his charging experience. He had to "fool" the EVSE into thinking it was plugged into a normal outlet by shorting the Neutral and Ground together.

Good Memory! Yes, the EcoFlow Delta Pro Double Voltage Hub that supplies 240V AC is designed to connect to a normal US Home split phase panel with neutral and ground bonded only at the panel.
However, My system is isolated from the home panel for Tesla charging. The Double Voltage hub does not bond neutral and ground so when an EVSE is connected to the 240v outlet it will fault. I made a special adapter with the ground and neutral bonded to fix that. This is never used when I do connect the EcoFlow system to my home panel through a generator switch panel.


This is what happens when there is no bonded N-G wire in the adapter: Red fault light.


Testing both Nissan and Tesla Mobile connector with the modified adapter:


When I want to use the solar system as a power outage backup, I use a different normal NEMA 14-50 adapter extension cable to my home generator switch:

When this green adapter is connected all grounds are isolated from the main house panel. In all cases my solar panel side of the system is earth grounded with a 10ft rod that grounds the solar panels as well as the DC feeds with special static discharge devices for lightning storm protection.
The solar DC feeds are circuit protected as well as static protected as seen in the upper left corner of the photo.

 

[reubenray]

Wow. Trying to follow this thread is difficult. We don't know how to measure voltage. Trying to get a house ready for shtf. Not exactly sure of the model of UPS. And theoretical wiring diagrams and configurations out in the ethers.
Let's try this. Scribble your current wiring and connection map down and slap it up here. I don't care. On a piece of tp, napkin, speeding ticket, mensa application.
I'm very sure there is a viable explanation. The EXACT UPS model you're using. Listen up.
I have an APC UPS with a smart outlet. And a Monster smart power strip. Not saying you have anything remotely similar. But still.

My APC has my desktop PC plugged into the master outlet. All the other crap is either on the slave outlets or on a good power strip on one of the slaves. PC on, monitor, speakers. Everything else comes on too. PC off. Everything shuts off too, the UPS idles down.
And the Monster is the same. My HT receiver is on the master outlet. Everything else.....I think you get it.
So. Cyber Power What?
If you're going to do the shtf thing. You need two things. A bible. And a multimeter. Pretty sure my Simpson 260 will be EMP resistant.

Speaking of. Why haven't you just gotten a good power strip and plugged all of the string of satellite equipment into it?
Consider that a physicians method. If it hurts when you do something specific. Quit! lol.
....coffee

I started using UPS battery backups systems back when I had a projector and frequent power outages. I wanted something to give me time to shut the projector off. I have a Cyberpower in the home entertainment center and a bigger APC with a smart outlet for other items. I do need to swap out the Cyberpower with the APC one somehow. I have a container full of powerstrips, but I prefer an UPS battery backup. The Cyberpower has the H3, a soundbar, Cox modem, SimpliSafe brain, Blu-ray player. Roku Ultra and a temperature monitor plugged into it. Only the main items are plugged into the battery backup side.

In my case a SHTF event could be an ice/snow storm like there is coming across the country now. I just prepped my 6250watt generator to be ready. The Delta 2 is a portable power station that I wanted mainly for the home entertainment center. It runs everything except for the Dish H3. It has plenty of power and battery to run for a while. In a few weeks my electrician will hook up my manual transfer switch for a bigger Delta Pro. This will run a lot of my house for a while. This one and the generator are connected to the house grounding. The Delta 2 is not prepped to be hooked up to the house grounding.