Echostar 14 119W transition information

[kstuart]

How come the spots 1 3 5 and 7 are still there? I want to know when they are moving Miami fl locals.

Read the first post in the thread.

 

[cj9788]

Read the first post in the thread.

God I hate smart ass answers.

I know that Miami is moving from tp 3 to tp 3 am i to pressume that they have already moved? I thought for sure I would lose the signal when it moved because the map shows Jacksonville way way outside the spotbeam area. I am still receiving miami.

 

[kstuart]

God I hate smart ass answers.

I know that Miami is moving from tp 3 to tp 3 am i to pressume that they have already moved? I thought for sure I would lose the signal when it moved because the map shows Jacksonville way way outside the spotbeam area. I am still receiving miami.

Actually your answer is the smart *ss answer.

Is someone supposed to have memorized every city's situation ?

Why would you expect someone to go to the first post, scan through it for the word "miami" (which you can do with CTRL-F by the way), find the date, and then report it back to you when you can do the same thing yourself ??

 

[nelson61]

Oh well, looks like my viewing from 119 is about done. I get 0 signal on all the conus feeds moved to echo 14. Good thing I pretty much only watch HD anyway.
If your wondering, Im at 114 by 64 (NWT, Can)

E7 has something like a 37 EIRP around your area and E14 looks like it might not be much less. It probably is just below your receiver threshold. What's your antenna size?

 

[digiblur]

Read the first post in the thread.

I will continue to update the first post in the thread as things change.

 

[OrangeCounty]

What happens if i change a transponder in my signal settings?

 

[Mr Tony]

nothing...once you exit out it goes back to the TP associated with the channel you are on

 

[OrangeCounty]

Oh, i see...

 

[digiblur]

So conus transponders are going to be moving from 5/6 FEC to 7/8? Sorry if I missed this, but what on earth does this mean and what is the significance of the change?

They will gain about 2 megabits a transponder if I remember correctly. Since the signal power is higher they don't need as much forward error correction. Even though the signal itself does not drop in power, everyone will notice their transponders are a few points lower in "strength" on the point dish screen. This will only affect people that are barely locking the signal in the first place.

 

[digiblur]

What I mean was that they are controlling more the two birds EVII & EXIV in this transition, so as he is located in Fringe, he might be aimed in a non favorable way at the moment and is not reading good levels from one or other bird due to the fact of his location.....therefore I advice to wait until full transition and reaim.

I imagine E7 will stay in its location for a bit. If they do slide E14 over a bit after E7 leaves I'm sure you will see a thread on this of the FCC filing on the forums. I wouldn't worry about it. Point and peak the dish now.

 

[kstuart]

They will gain about 2 megabits a transponder if I remember correctly. Since the signal power is higher they don't need as much forward error correction. Even though the signal itself does not drop in power, everyone will notice their transponders are a few points lower in "strength" on the point dish screen. This will only affect people that are barely locking the signal in the first place.

So, I would assume that the HD spot beam transponders will stay FEC 2/3 until such a time as more bandwidth is needed to add more channels (such as local PBS-HD).

Is that right ?

 

[AKGolf]

Point and peak the dish now.

I didn't think about this, but I guess I need to have them come out and tweek my dish.

 

[digiblur]

I didn't think about this, but I guess I need to have them come out and tweek my dish.

I saw your signals on the E14 signal thread... you are getting some high numbers on E14, I wouldn't touch a thing.

 

[digiblur]

So, I would assume that the HD spot beam transponders will stay FEC 2/3 until such a time as more bandwidth is needed to add more channels (such as local PBS-HD).

Is that right ?

Correct they could go to 8PSK 5/6 (there some spots around doing this) to gain more bandwidth.

 

[AKGolf]

I saw your signals on the E14 signal thread... you are getting some high numbers on E14, I wouldn't touch a thing.

I think they may be low because of the cloudy conditions. I took a reading last weekend on a sunny day and some of the numbers were a little higher.

 

[kstuart]

Correct they could go to 8PSK 5/6 (there some spots around doing this) to gain more bandwidth.

But if I understood what you said earlier, is that the FEC setting does not affect the rain fade of the transponder, is that correct ?

 

[rocatman]

Is TP 7 going to stay as a spotbeam TP off of E-7 for awhile or will it be converted to a CONUS TP on E-14?

 

[kstuart]

Is TP 7 going to stay as a spotbeam TP off of E-7 for awhile or will it be converted to a CONUS TP on E-14?

Consistent with the FCC filings, one might reasonably expect that all transponders other than 1-5 will be CONUS when the transition is complete.

 

[rocatman]

Consistent with the FCC filings, one might reasonably expect that all transponders other than 1-5 will be CONUS when the transition is complete.

I asked because TP 7 wasn't listed anywhere I could see in the earlier posts for E-14 conversion.

 

[kstuart]

I asked because TP 7 wasn't listed anywhere I could see in the earlier posts for E-14 conversion.

Look in the top post and you will see indications of "E*7 TP7 moving to E*14 TP4" and so on.

There are no CONUS channels that are known to be moving to TP7 on E*14, because dish made enough space on E*7 to move all of the CONUS channels on TP1-5, so that they could use the E*14 spot beams on TP1-5.

That implies that when the transition is over, TP7 will be available free space for new National CONUS channels.

Also, Dish's FCC filing says that they will not be using any transponder greater than 5 for spot beams in the near future.

It would not surprise me for TP7 to be used either for "new National HD" or simply to move some over from 129 to free up a little more space on 129.