E* New York DMA Sports fans getting the shaft

[bluegras]

Let's see, ESPN3 is streaming only, not broadcast. So, your CSR knows about as much as you want to hear.

hey bobby all they gave me that list and i wanted to post here it here for you guys since SNY and YES are in those two for the most requested channels. at least dish is hearing alot of our requests now i hope they can make those happen.

 

[JSheridan]

This is one of the reasons I left Dish several years ago. I would consider coming back if they would add Yes.

I read in this article today that YES gets about $5 per sub, for ALL subs on a system in the region. I'm sure the 90%+ who couldn't care less about YES do not want to pay the bill. Too bad YES won't agree to alacarte.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ankees-fans-fret-tv-blackout-amid-fox-dispute

 

[Chris Walker]

I couldn't imagine being a Dish subscriber if I lived in New York. Even if you don't watch sports, you are still paying the same so why not have access to the programming incase you want to have friends or family over who want to watch a game? At some point its on the subscriber for continuing to overpay Dish for their service.

 

[bluegras]

if it was me i would like to YES and SNY broadcast in 24/7 and in HD similar like pac,big to and Sec network we are getting right now who knows we might get the yes network as a package deal from fox.

 

[navychop]

I don't want ANY RSNs added, if it adds so much as a PENNY to my bill. I don't watch sports, I don't like sports, and I certainly don't want to PAY for sports.

May the NFL go bankrupt.

 

[loubon]

I honestly don't see this changing, its been this way for 5 years now if not longer. Cancellations in these areas have been slim to none meaning that most don't care about not having their local sports available to them.

The only one channel I could see possibly coming to DISH would be YES, and that's only because Comcast has dropped the channel, leaving on DIRECTV with the channel for the entire YES area.

I don't think cancellations are the only measure of dissatisfaction (although it is a big one). I'd love to see MSG & SNY back but in balance against other value I get, I choose to stay.

 

[ChadT41]

Wasn't part of the MLB.tv deal that you can pay $10 more and get your team regardless of the channel they are on, minus the Dodgers and a couple others.

 

[ChadT41]

I don't think cancellations are the only measure of dissatisfaction (although it is a big one). I'd love to see MSG & SNY back but in balance against other value I get, I choose to stay.

That is what Dish is counting on. Pay more and get worse equipment with competition, or go without this channel and get superior everything else. Cancellations is pretty much the measure able data as of a customer sticks around over a 5 year period... Then if they are dissatisfied but would be more unhappy paying more at a competitor, Dish is doing their job. Also, love the response about internationals. Dish doesn't have the sports channel but has the international. Oppurtunity cost, which is worth more to you... It has officially been answered.

 

[Tampa8]

I don't think cancellations are the only measure of dissatisfaction (although it is a big one). I'd love to see MSG & SNY back but in balance against other value I get, I choose to stay.

And to add to that, when I posted that no one is under contract who signed up when DISH had any of those NY RSN's I was referring specifically to that meaning there is now a negligible loss of subscribers due to those RSN's. It would be someone who did no checking of what they get before signing, and there are some who do not. I see little to no incentive for DISH to carry them unless they are cost effective. Less chance with each passing day that Sports is becoming more available online.

 

[Tampa8]

Wasn't part of the MLB.tv deal that you can pay $10 more and get your team regardless of the channel they are on, minus the Dodgers and a couple others.

I believe the new "Follow Your Team" $10 option is still only for out of market teams. You can pick one out of market team. So if you are a Kansas City Royal fan, and they are playing in the Market you live in, say Baltimore, that game will not be blacked out for you when they play Baltimore.
MLB is working with teams to have an online subscription for your in market team games, but it may include only games when they are in Market, not all teams will necessarily participate, and you still may need to be a subscriber to the RSN. There are more rumors than facts however still about what that might be. Still reported to be one to two years away.

 

[rapidturtle]

I read in this article today that YES gets about $5 per sub, for ALL subs on a system in the region. I'm sure the 90%+ who couldn't care less about YES do not want to pay the bill. Too bad YES won't agree to alacarte.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ankees-fans-fret-tv-blackout-amid-fox-dispute

Too bad it all doesn't go alacarte, because there are a lot of channels that I don't want to pay for.

 

[ChadT41]

Too bad it all doesn't go alacarte, because there are a lot of channels that I don't want to pay for.

$15-$20 for just ESPN doesn't sound appeasing at all.

 

[dare2be]

Sure it does. If no one subscribes because it's too high, the price would drop. Ya know, true supply/demand, not subsidized.

 

[ChadT41]

Sure it does. If no one subscribes because it's too high, the price would drop. Ya know, true supply/demand, not subsidized.

Then the next issue. The quality goes down because the revenue is not coming in.

 

[dare2be]

What quality? You mean less Around the Horn, PTI, and SportsCenter? Quality might go up.

 

[ChadT41]

Not just ESPN... All the channels. It's either that or we will find ourselves back where we are now, except with less. The increases are the direct result of customers paying whatever it takes to get what they want.

 

[osu1991]

Then the next issue. The quality goes down because the revenue is not coming in.

Again what quality? The all day pawn stars marathon tomorrow on History or that quality award winning highly intellectual programming on E keeping up with the kardashians. Maybe you meant the Sex and the City or Real Housewives marathons on Oxygen and Bravo.



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[ChadT41]

Or the push for the next thing, in this case 4K. The bid for multiple games for seamless viewing. The quality of new tv shows. Graphics, everything.

 

[Troch77]

Tv and Quality don't really go together anymore.

There is more "Place Holder" programming then there is original non repetitive programming.


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[dare2be]

That's because there are so many more "place-holder" channels, intended to extract more carriage fees from MVPDs and give the impression that the consumer is getting more ("ooh, looky, new channels!") when in reality they aren't getting more or better content.

Ala carte would force content owners to compete for their business. If you want to make a channel compelling enough that people will pay for it, then improve the content quality or reduce the price.