DVR Fees - Will they continue forever?
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Misstating things is just the wrong way to look at it.
You can get a DVR, cheaply and simply.
Say you have 2 TVs, if you want to save some money, get 2 211k's.
No DVR fee at all, other than a one time HD enabling fee.
Then $7/month (I think) for the 2nd one.
There - Done!! 2 DVRS, no DVR fee at all!!
You're welcome!
I just looked up the 211k at the DishStore, and it doesn't mention that these are DVRs. Am I missing something?
Technically they aren't, but by adding an external Hd and paying a one time enabling fee, they become one. If one tuner is enough, it is an excellent option to consider for a bedroom or some such.
interesting. Thanks. I guess I've really been out of the loop lately. I don't seem to be as gung-ho on the satellite bandwagon as I've been in the past. I used to be up on all of this stuff. Gettin' old, I guess.
You are correct. The 721, 501 and 508 were grandfathered and did not have DVR fees. Even further back, Dish did not charge DVR fees, and bragged about it. Times change. No sense in getting emotional about it. And no sense in blindly sticking it out without reviewing your options.
That's how you tell them what they cannot charge you for, not the other way around.
I'm not sure why the DVR fee jumps to $10 when you add a ViP922, but it seems to.
As for getting a break because you purchased the DVRs outright, that hasn't been the case with DISH Network nor DIRECTV for some time. Both charge the same monthly hardware fees whether owned or leased.
Because it's supposedly their flagship, top of the line product. More bells and whistles. Never mind some of the older bells and whistles don't quite work any more. I really is a "because we can" fee. Sigh.
From what I read here, it seems less and less likely I will ever want a ViP922.
I created a chart comparing comparable packages and setups between Dish and Direct. These prices do not include promotions, upfront costs, nor additional programming, and HD is assumed to be paid (not the free for life with either company). With just about every setup, Dish is slightly better in price than Direct. Even though DVR fees and additional receiver/DVR fees are higher than Direct, total price is still less with Dish in most cases.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/general...ces-dish-network-vs-directtv.html#post2277774
http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=54066&d=1280364964
http://www.satelliteguys.us/general...ces-dish-network-vs-directtv.html#post2277774
http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=54066&d=1280364964
What, you mean they could start charging the same $6 per account ?
Sure, and they could increase any and all fees. What is you point?
Sure, and they could increase any and all fees. What is you point?
Thanks for the hard work here DK. I'm surprised at the numbers. I thought anything beyond 2-3 TVs was going to be Direct all the way.
DuoDVR reciever or not though, $17 is outrageous, which is on top of the $10 DVR fee (for the 922). I only have two boxes, the 922 and a 722k, so I shouldn't complain too much but if you add it up I'm still paying $13.50 per receiver and I think that is too high.
But I'm not going to continually bitch about it either. I'm overall happy with Dish. The ViPs are great boxes. I'm sure I'd be just as happy with Direct and the 24 series though.
But if you went with Directv you would be paying more for your programing pack than with DISH. Less on the additional receive by 12.00, but when you add it all up would you save any more money?
Directv two hd dvrs
68.99 Total choice
10.00 hd pack
07.00 dvr fee
03.00 Multi room viewing
05.00 additional receiver fee
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93.99
DISH one 922 & one 722k
64.99 top 250
00.00 Hd for life if you already had hd +plat pack
10.00 Sling/ dvr fee
17.00 additional receiver fee
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91.99
So you would pay $2.00 less for comparable pack and dvrs with DISH.
Now compare the same two companies with Directv's Premier pack and DISH's AEP+ Multi-sports pack(comparable to Premier)
Directv two dvrs
114.99 Premier pack
10.00 hd pack
07.00 dvr fee
03.00 Mrv
05.00 additional receiver fee
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139.99
DISH 922 and 722k dvrs
99.99 Aep
00.00 Hd for life
10.00 sling /dvr fee
07.00 Multi -sports pack
17.00 additional receiver fee
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133.99
DISH still 6.00 cheaper on two dvrs than DIRECTV.
Directv two hd dvrs
68.99 Total choice
10.00 hd pack
07.00 dvr fee
03.00 Multi room viewing
05.00 additional receiver fee
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93.99
DISH one 922 & one 722k
64.99 top 250
00.00 Hd for life if you already had hd +plat pack
10.00 Sling/ dvr fee
17.00 additional receiver fee
---------------------------------
91.99
So you would pay $2.00 less for comparable pack and dvrs with DISH.
Now compare the same two companies with Directv's Premier pack and DISH's AEP+ Multi-sports pack(comparable to Premier)
Directv two dvrs
114.99 Premier pack
10.00 hd pack
07.00 dvr fee
03.00 Mrv
05.00 additional receiver fee
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139.99
DISH 922 and 722k dvrs
99.99 Aep
00.00 Hd for life
10.00 sling /dvr fee
07.00 Multi -sports pack
17.00 additional receiver fee
---------------------------------
133.99
DISH still 6.00 cheaper on two dvrs than DIRECTV.
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And if you use two hddvrs that are nearly equivalent to the hrs from d*, the 612 you save $10 more per month and the dvr fee is $4 less.
All very true. I wasn't saying that Direct was cheaper or anything, just that I think the receiver fees are too high. Like I said, I'm not going to continually bitch about it and I'm happy with Dish, and my 922 has been very stable, great receiver, so I'm grateful for that too (knock on wood).
Actually DIRECTV is giving HD for life to new subs. So you have to lower the price $10 on DIRECTV, so DIRECTV actually is ahead (lower price) in both cases.
HD is free with Choice ultimate and Premiere: Comparable costs apples to apples:
Dish:
AEP: $99.99
Sports: $7.00
HD+Plat: $10.00
2nd 622: $17.00
211: $7.00
DVR Fee: $6.00
Total: $146.99
Direct:
Premiere: 114.99
HD+Extra: $4.99
DVR+MRV: $10.00
2nd and 3rd HR24: 10.00
Total: $139.98
S~
Dish:
AEP: $99.99
Sports: $7.00
HD+Plat: $10.00
2nd 622: $17.00
211: $7.00
DVR Fee: $6.00
Total: $146.99
Direct:
Premiere: 114.99
HD+Extra: $4.99
DVR+MRV: $10.00
2nd and 3rd HR24: 10.00
Total: $139.98
S~
Thanks for the reality check. The bottom line is that DISH/SATS is no longer the "best" deal for their "best" customers. The feejacking (taken from the SatelliteGuys.US dictionary) has gotten out-of-control.
