I've been a customer with directv for about 10 years and have recently purchased an HDtv. Trying to upgrade to directv hd has been quite a headache. It all started more than a month ago when my first installation appointment came. The installer came out and looked at where the dish, took out his little protractor thing, and said there was no los and then got in his truck and left. So I called directv and asked what was up with that. So I asked if they would simply send me the equipment so i can so a self install in another place in my yard. Well they said sure, it wouldn't be a problem and told me they would have an installer come out and leave me the equipment. So the tech came and basically stared at me like I was crazy when I said that he was just supposed to give me the equipment. So he preceded to look at my current dish, did a los sight test and said yeah thats a problem. He then said he would have to call his supervisor for approval. After trying he said he couldn't get into contact with him and said he would be back later in the day to leave the equipment and then never returned. So I rescheduled for the following Saturday morning. When that day came around I got a phone call that mornig from a dtv tech and asked what was up with him leaving the equipment. I said that the people at dtv said it wasn't a problem. He said hed have to talk to his supervisor about it. 5 minutes later and the phone rang again, said he couldn't do it and that i would have to buy the dish myself. So after this I asked if he would come and look at all of the different points on my house and find a los. He refused. So he told me he would call me back with a resolution and hung up. He never called back. So after that I called dtv and told them the story so far. The first csr told me that they should of left the equipment, the second csr said the same, the third said the same, and the forth said that they would only give me the box, but under no circumstance would they give me a dish. So I asked if they would send someone out to find a los on my house and do an install. They said that they would have a supervisor come out the next day and do a survey. The next day I sat around the house all day to have the supervisor completely blow me off and not show up. So I, being so fed up, just gave up, until the other day when I finally broke down when I found a pretty good deal on ebay for a slimline. So I dug the hole outback for a pole mount and am now waiting for the dish to come. So once when I get that set up I need to call up directv and get a receiver. Now I am not someone who is to ask for things free but after this instance what do you think my chances would be to get some free things, especially if I call the retention dept? I am scheduled to get the H20, which I am getting for free, but do do you guys think there may be a chance in maybe telling this story and possibly get a free or cheap upgrade to an hr20. I know the techs, according to a csr, will have to bring out this receiver but do you think I might be able to negotiate a good deal (hopefully free) on an hr20. If not maybe some good deal credits. I know it may be a long shot but whats your opinions? Thanks