Dish to unveil 4k?

Yeah I'm looking at Samsung 4K tv this time around I usually buy Sony but thought I would try Samsung this time around. I was looking at the 65 inch JS8500 which supports HDR but it only comes with the mini connect box instead of a full connect box. At this time I'm looking at the JS9000 65 inch which has the full connect box which is a big plus compared to the 85000. Overall the 9000 has a lot more features plus faster CPU but upgrade difference would be the 8500 only can use the Mini Connect where the 9000 has the full One Connect box. Which means the 9000 can be upgrade to future One Connect boxes. Which is the main internal parts of the TV like OS,Features so forth.

The FULL "One Connect" box that comes with the JS9000 doesn't just contain all the various connections/ports for the TV (as does the "One Connect Mini" box that comes with the JS8500) but also contains the "Brains" of the TV (the Octa-Core Processor, the Tizen Operating System, the Smart Hub, etc...) Plus from what I have read the 8500 can not be upgraded to a Full One Connect box.

Upgrading the FULL "One Connect" box is almost like getting a brand new TV (but with the same panel though) which basically makes the JS9000 a more future proof TV. :)
 
Upgrading the FULL "One Connect" box is almost like getting a brand new TV (but with the same panel though) which basically makes the JS9000 a more future proof TV. :)
While One Connect can address port, encryption and CODEC changes, it can't effectively upgrade the panel's capability.

If you hang out with those who have the One Connect box, many haven't made the jump.
 
While One Connect can address port, encryption and CODEC changes, it can't effectively upgrade the panel's capability.

If you hang out with those who have the One Connect box, many haven't made the jump.

But what has been pointed out before . "Last year's flagship model, the HU9000, were able to purchase the new "SEK-3500U" this year, which is the exact same "One Connect" box that comes with the JS9000, and upgrade from a Quad-Core processor to the new Octa-Core, get the new Tizen operating system and the new Smart Hub, and also reported numerous improvements to the picture quality as well several other improvements to other features of their TVs."
 
Yeah I'm looking at Samsung 4K tv this time around I usually buy Sony but thought I would try Samsung this time around. I was looking at the 65 inch JS8500 which supports HDR but it only comes with the mini connect box instead of a full connect box. At this time I'm looking at the JS9000 65 inch which has the full connect box which is a big plus compared to the 85000. Overall the 9000 has a lot more features plus faster CPU but upgrade difference would be the 8500 only can use the Mini Connect where the 9000 has the full One Connect box. Which means the 9000 can be upgrade to future One Connect boxes. Which is the main internal parts of the TV like OS,Features so forth.

The FULL "One Connect" box that comes with the JS9000 doesn't just contain all the various connections/ports for the TV (as does the "One Connect Mini" box that comes with the JS8500) but also contains the "Brains" of the TV (the Octa-Core Processor, the Tizen Operating System, the Smart Hub, etc...) Plus from what I have read the 8500 can not be upgraded to a Full One Connect box.

Upgrading the FULL "One Connect" box is almost like getting a brand new TV (but with the same panel though) which basically makes the JS9000 a more future proof TV. :)

Not sure if your correct here. As the Samsung SEK-3500 for the HU8550 series is like getting new guts... all the processing for the TV is done in the external box. All the connections for the TV have to go through that box as the ports on the TV are disabled.

In addition with a few tricks in the service menu you can fool the TV into thinking its a JS9000, giving you most if not all the JS9000 features. Big HUGE discussion on this over at http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...-2015-samsung-sek-3500u-za-evolution-kit.html
 
Not sure if your correct here. As the Samsung SEK-3500 for the HU8550 series is like getting new guts... all the processing for the TV is done in the external box. All the connections for the TV have to go through that box as the ports on the TV are disabled.

In addition with a few tricks in the service menu you can fool the TV into thinking its a JS9000, giving you most if not all the JS9000 features. Big HUGE discussion on this over at http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...-2015-samsung-sek-3500u-za-evolution-kit.html

Yeah at this point I'm looking at the JS9000 to go with so I'm waiting until after first of the year before I decided on anything to see what gets announced at CES so forth. But I like what Direct is doing with AT&T this could be very interesting as long as they do things right.
 
At team summit, one of the higher up Dish reps told me about the next gen Hopper which wasn't even being talked about yet, it is going to be drastically different/more advanced. It is obvious that it will be 4K, but something that we heard just last week from our area rep is it is going to have 16 tuners. The new UI was supposed to be ready in Sept or Oct, but as usual is late. I also asked them if with the new UI, would they still allow us to turn off the advertisement in the guide, he said that actually being discussed and he wasn't sure.

As others have said, the upgrade to 4K is no where near as big as the upgrade to HD. If they wouldn't compress the crap out of the current HD, it would be even less, hopefully they don't over compress the 4K, I can just see the "4K lite" discussions now...
 
they need to get all the channels added in hd before adding 4k channels since i do not know that many 4k channels out there right maybe that will chage once CES rolls around.
 
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At team summit, one of the higher up Dish reps told me about the next gen Hopper which wasn't even being talked about yet, it is going to be drastically different/more advanced. It is obvious that it will be 4K, but something that we heard just last week from our area rep is it is going to have 16 tuners. The new UI was supposed to be ready in Sept or Oct, but as usual is late. I also asked them if with the new UI, would they still allow us to turn off the advertisement in the guide, he said that actually being discussed and he wasn't sure.

As others have said, the upgrade to 4K is no where near as big as the upgrade to HD. If they wouldn't compress the crap out of the current HD, it would be even less, hopefully they don't over compress the 4K, I can just see the "4K lite" discussions now...

I'm guessing it won't have 16 literal tuners, but will have more tuners that can record 4 channels at once.
 
very great question to ask does dish have enough room for 4k channels. alot of people are still waiting for their RSNS to go 24/7 and in hd i have been requesting to dish to add these in hd.
Yes absolute. Here in Hawaii NONE of our RSN s are ever hd - for live or rebroadcast.
Neither are any of the NHL Game Center broadcasts that the game finder says we are supposed to receive in hd. Everything is always sd and when the broadcasts are from FOX sports stations the broadcasts are exceptionally poor.
I'm more inclined to ask for hd more than 4K at this point.
 
Dish shouldn't promise all HD channels. Then the providers would have them over a barrel.
 
Dish shouldn't promise all HD channels. Then the providers would have them over a barrel.
i understand no problem at all waiting for the day when all the channels on dish will be in HD that maybe a while before that will happen i noticed in the uplink report that there was some hd channels uplinked in one of the uplink report three of the hd channels got epg added.
 
At team summit, one of the higher up Dish reps told me about the next gen Hopper which wasn't even being talked about yet, it is going to be drastically different/more advanced. It is obvious that it will be 4K, but something that we heard just last week from our area rep is it is going to have 16 tuners.
I have heard a lot of rumors about the new Hopper but not this 16 tuner one. I can't even imagine what a box that has 16 tuners would cost to make not to mention the processing and CPU horsepower needed to record and play 16 things at once. I guess we will find out at CES, which should be exciting. :)
 
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I'm guessing it won't have 16 literal tuners, but will have more tuners that can record 4 channels at once.
I was told that "extending" the PTAT technology was something they were planning in the future, so even the current Hopper could be capable of (12) virtual tuners. If this is true or accurate about having "16", that could imply the addition of (1) real tuner. That would be (4) tuners x (4) PTAT-style = 16.
 
I can't see them turning all the tuners into multi use tuners. I'm guessing 6 tuners with 2 able to do the 4 programs. That keeps them competitive.
 
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I can't see them turning all the tuners into multi use tuners. I'm guessing 6 tuners with 2 able to do the 4 programs. That keeps them competitive.
Why not? It doesn't impact the user. Besides, it would require some fine print that refers to only certain groupings of channels will "allow" this to extend to (16).

In the end, this is just a software change of enabling ALL tuners to do PTAT-style tuning. It probably needs add'l horsepower too so it may not be possible on current or previous Hoppers.
 

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