Dish Streaming Service to Be $30, Charge More For Broadcast TV
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Easy way to get them on board, forced commercials, no more fast forwarding thru them, advertisers would love that, then the content providers would get money on both sides, from whoever is providing the service and from the ad buyers.
I read that Hulu Plus gets 7.99 from us and $7.00 per subscriber from ad buyers.
Sooner or later, someone will provide this type of service, this is what Apple is working on with their new Apple TV 4, but they also ran into issues with content providers and that is what delayed the new Apple TV, but I have read those issues are being worked out with a launch in spring 2015, but we will see.
hmm... my memory says Dish USED to do that. I remember NOT paying the extra $5/month because I got my locals OTA. That also meant no guide data for locals and a lot of manual timers. That lasted for a year or two, then Dish "included"Hear hear. I think an ideal comeuppance for the broadcasters would be for Dish to stop making me pay for OTA channels via satellite (and of course not pay the broadcasters for those channels I don't get via sat) and let me get them for free on my Dish DVRs via antenna.
locals and my bill went up $5. 
You missed the point, as an example;
http://www.cbs.com/watch/
$5.99 directly to the Network complete control over the entire watching process.
Agreed. All of these HBO Go style apps on the Apple TV, Roku, video game consoles, etc have made it easier than ever to be a cord cutter. Thanks to my parents Dish credentials I get access to WatchESPN and HBO Go on my Apple TV. I have a friend's Xfinity credentials for FX Now on Apple TV too. I also get live access to NFL Network and NFL Redzone on my Xbox One thanks to my parents Dish account.
The truth is that I rarely use any of the apps I get access to this way. I pay for my parents to subscribe to HBO during Game of Thrones so I can use HBO Go at my house, I used FX Now for The League this season, and I watched about 2 or 3 Monday and Thursday night NFL games total between WatchESPN and NFL Network.
The rest of what I watch is recorded from OTA or I get it with my Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu Plus accounts. I buy the occasional iTunes season pass for shows like The Walking Dead but for most stuff I'm fine waiting until it's on Netflix.
$30 a month is not worth it to me if I only get live TV and I have to use a specialized Dish app that may or may not be on the devices I want to use. However, I would consider it if it got me Dish credentials to use on the apps I mentioned above even if ads were included like they are on Hulu Plus. They all keep their shows available on demand so you can watch at your convenience.
Again, I agree with you. It's true that Hulu Plus has commercials you can't skip even though you are paying for their service. I constantly see people bash them for that and I get what they are saying. However, we are talking about $7.99 a month and the shows aren't a year old like they are on Netflix. Also commercial breaks are always either 30 or 60 seconds. It's much more bearable than the breaks people are used to with traditional TV. Granted, most of their content comes from free OTA networks or Comedy Central but it's a decent backup for when I get recordings with lots of OTA breakup.
I do think there is a market for a low priced cable alternative with ads that can't be skipped. Something that follows the Hulu Plus model but with more cable content for around $15-$20 is something I can see working. Just like with Hulu Plus, advertisers would be willing to cover a larger portion of the total bill when they know we are going to see their ads. From the budget customer's end $15-$20 would be a lot more attractive than $80-$100 even if you don't get every show available.
People have been saying this for a long time. Streaming has continued to take more and more of the market every year. This isn't a new trend. My total TV costs for the last year have been about 14% of what I used to pay Dish. I already paid for Netflix and Amazon Prime before I dropped Dish so that 14% I'm paying for streaming is something I paid on top of my Dish bill before.
My internet has been stuck right near $50 a month with the same provider for about 13 years now. In that time my download speeds have gone from 1.5Mbps to 60Mbps without any significant change to pricing. To pay the same price as I was for Dish my internet bill would have to more than double in cost. I don't see that happening without the government stepping in or alternative internet options entering the market.
As for data caps, I stream video every day. I also regularly download video games that are between 20-50GB. One of the games I recently downloaded weighed in at 65GB. I pull down several of these every month and I have never gotten a notice of any kind for using too much data. I'm not saying that other people don't have problems with data caps, but I use way more than the average person and this has been a non-issue for me.
I think all the doom and gloom about internet prices and data caps is greatly exaggerated. These providers are already worried about the government stepping on their toes. If they suddenly try to cripple our country's internet access and put us behind the rest of the modern world they know the government would step in.
Cable isn't the only game in town anymore. I know they would prefer it if things stayed the way they were 15 years ago. That's not going to happen though. They will either adapt or die.
Depends on where you live. Around here, if you want anything faster than DSL speed, cable *IS* the only game in town. AND there's only one cable company.
my 4g service is screaming 25 mbps but it has horrid latency.
where as my att dsl is clocking in between 6 and 10 megs but latency is low like in the 20ms-50 ms range.
so I keep my dsl service going just because of the latency
Hey, that's great for you. I mean really. But that still doesn't change the fact what's available varies on where you live. DSL around here is marketed at "up 3meg" which means you're lucky if you get one.
And if you live in an area like this that doesn't have actual broadband available you obviously aren't the target market for a streaming service like this. They don't need a service that works for everyone. There is enough of this country's population in city areas and suburbs for them to have a sustainable business without worrying about those who can't get it.
Actually, they don't. ESPN has been a long time Holy Grail to the younlings becaue they just can't get it, and that is part of the Disney deal. Also, HBO is another programmer they also can't get but desperately want. There are more than a few CURRENT (not Netflix's OLD content) and live sports that the kids want NOW and are willing to pay. The Dish OTT will be successful for ESPN alone, but they will appreciate easy access to other services on the NuTV service.
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Again why would they want to pay for something that they can get for free just by logging in with their parents or friends email/password.
I have a family member that does that while at school, he gets ESPN, HBO, Showtime, Big Ten Network and about 100 channels either on his Laptop, Tablet and Roku live or via the apps.
As far as Netflix goes, they get get newer movies about the same Time Frame that HBO gets them as far as the pay window goes, plus tons of other things.
I got a Comcast business internet account. I have no business. No Cap. Regularly use up to 550GB/month. Had it for years. $70/month which includes modem lease. Preferred packets over residential traffic in their network. Get 18mbps down, 4up. PQ of streamed content such as NFL Rewind looks as good or better than DIsh.
