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pad/pole support combo?

It's interesting that the references that I have said that my pad should be at least 3.5 inches deep but that the J bolts should be 25 inches. I guess I need to combine the pad and pole support techniques? So, for a 12' dish with a 3.5" pole I need a 6'x6'x3.5" pad layout with a 14"x5' hole in the center? :confused:
 
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