DISH Reaches Long Term Agreement with DISNEY / ESPN / ABC
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Just do it already. Geesh you've been moaning about espnu for 2 years. If it was that important you would have switched already.
And the "we" people will be first in line to complain when there is no savings and the bill actually goes up...13 more days... only time will tell
I have Dish and DirecTV at my house.. So if Charlie wants to give me a big present like a free Ipad, He can drop ESPN all he wants. 
I may consider selling DirecTV instead of Dish if they dropped ESPN. We came real close to selling DirecTV last year when they dropped BTN. It gets real old hearing complaints from customers about how pissed of they are and I have no control over it.
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If it was me and you make a living from installing sell both. I've heard that direct is so much Nicer to deal with from a reseller point of view. But I'm a hopper guy I love that thing.
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Analyst: Dish Will Blackout Disney, ESPN This Month
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (September 17, 2013) - This is an update on our earlier coverage of the possible fee fight between Dish and the Disney-owned ESPN. See earlier articles below.
A Wall Street hedge fund manager yesterday tweeted that he's hearing that Dish will blackout Disney at the end of the month when their programming agreement expires.
"Negotiations are not going well," wrote Mike Bergen of Bergen Capital, an investment capital firm, which has more than 20,000 followers on Twitter.
Bergen's comments reflect a growing belief that Dish and Disney will not work out a deal. The satcaster's eight-year carriage deal with Disney, which owns ESPN, the Disney channels, and ABC affiliates, expires at the end of the month and some analysts believe a classic fee fight is inevitable.
At the center of the impasse is Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen who has publicly railed against rising programming fees, particularly with sports networks, and could use the Disney negotiations to make a point that rising fees must stop now.
Ergen has not been shy about allowing his subscribers to lose access to even popular channels for a short periods to put pressure on content companies to keep their costs down. He has also questioned the wisdom of paying excessive fees to carry sports networks, such as ESPN, which are not viewed by a majority of the audience, although their core audiences are zealously loyal.
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (September 17, 2013) - This is an update on our earlier coverage of the possible fee fight between Dish and the Disney-owned ESPN. See earlier articles below.
A Wall Street hedge fund manager yesterday tweeted that he's hearing that Dish will blackout Disney at the end of the month when their programming agreement expires.
"Negotiations are not going well," wrote Mike Bergen of Bergen Capital, an investment capital firm, which has more than 20,000 followers on Twitter.
Bergen's comments reflect a growing belief that Dish and Disney will not work out a deal. The satcaster's eight-year carriage deal with Disney, which owns ESPN, the Disney channels, and ABC affiliates, expires at the end of the month and some analysts believe a classic fee fight is inevitable.
At the center of the impasse is Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen who has publicly railed against rising programming fees, particularly with sports networks, and could use the Disney negotiations to make a point that rising fees must stop now.
Ergen has not been shy about allowing his subscribers to lose access to even popular channels for a short periods to put pressure on content companies to keep their costs down. He has also questioned the wisdom of paying excessive fees to carry sports networks, such as ESPN, which are not viewed by a majority of the audience, although their core audiences are zealously loyal.
This is the same analyst which was quoted yesterday. No other analysts have said anything nor has anyone I spoken to at DISH or ESPN say things are going bad.
So are things going bad or does this analyst have a grudge with DISH? I don't know Mr. Bergen so I can't say I know the answer.
As I said before if you start seeing stuff on ESPN saying that DISH is going to remove the channels then start to worry... we have seen nothing like that nor heard any rumblings negative from either company. Normally this close to the deadline we hear these things.
So are things going bad or does this analyst have a grudge with DISH? I don't know Mr. Bergen so I can't say I know the answer.
As I said before if you start seeing stuff on ESPN saying that DISH is going to remove the channels then start to worry... we have seen nothing like that nor heard any rumblings negative from either company. Normally this close to the deadline we hear these things.
Dish is not our main product. We are a major appliance store that also sells TVs and Dish. We have considered selling but can't decide if it's worth it or not. We'd have to learn another set of business rules and take on more inventory. We also sell and install antennas.
So I would think if things are not going good, we would see things splashed on a banner of Disney channels with just under two weeks to go, next week might be a big speculation week?
I still believe in your gut feeling Scott
So I would think if things are not going good, we would see things splashed on a banner of Disney channels with just under two weeks to go, next week might be a big speculation week?
I still believe in your gut feeling Scott
Every week is a big speculation week here on SatGuys! LOL
Why wait until next week? I SPECULATE that the agreement between Dish and ESPN will involve splitting out ESPN into it's own (or with others) premium sports package and letting ESPN charge whatever they want.
and letting ESPN charge whatever they want.Last Saturday I had over 50 college football games available to me on Dish. 10 to 20% were on the ESPN networks. The Big 12 conference has a deal with Fox. So my main interests would not change with the loss of ESPN. I did not watch any of the ESPN network offerings last Saturday. I would miss Monday night NFL football. However, with NFL Network now having Thursday night football , the Red zone on Sunday, NBC Sunday night football, I would not miss Monday night football as much. My wife would surely be jumping with glee to get me to join her another night of the week. Now that Fox, NBC , and CBS all have dedicated sports networks at much lower costs than ESPN I would think that ESPN should be asking for less than more to be competitive.
You might not care and those other sports channels might exist but they aren't even competition for ESPN. Monday night football had higher ratings than any program on cable or broadcast networks for that night. ESPN owns the 4 highest rated cable programs of 2013. Fox Sports 1 and NBCSN aren't even competition for ESPN.
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This is an opinion forum. Since Scott's #202 post. Looking at different user names with an opinion 6 were against paying more for ESPN and Disney. 5 were for paying extra. 2 wanted a separate sports package and reduced fee non sports packages. Lets continue the opinions and see where it falls. Just because one person posts many times with the same opinion it only counts once.
And just like with AMC does a few hours of highly rated programming justify the price. IMO no. Yes they draw millions of viewers for a few hours during certain events but for the other 18-20 hrs a day its repeats of low rated filler. I missed games a few years ago during the Fox dispute, I may miss a few this year, so be it, its only TV and at some point someone has to No. We would all still be subjects of The British Empire, if someone didn't stand up and say No.
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This is an opinion forum and you are certainly entitled to yours. The bottom line is that Dish doesn't care about your opinion or mine though. They make packages that they think the general public at as a whole will like. When over 20 million people are watching a game it is probably an indication that the general public wants ESPN. I would have no problem with it if they wanted to offer a package like AT200 minus all the sports. I'm not against people getting what they want. I just don't think Dish is going to play around with dropping channels that bring in numbers like that.
