DISH Price Increases

[navychop]

hey now...whats wrong with an outhouse?

Houseflies. The size of a house.

And in July, in northern LA just uphill from the lake we were fishing (yummy fish!), an aroma that could knock a buzzard off a Schmidt wagon at fifty paces. You REALLY had to go, to go...

And no toilet paper.

Ah, the memories you bring back to life!

 

[boba]

Post 1...

You and ICE both posted go to post #1 but it is not 100% complete and accurate about all the information that has been posted in the thread, the thread as usual also has some digressions. The software for this thread also takes you to the NEW posts not with post#1

 

[boba]

Post 1...

You and ICE both posted go to post #1 but it is not 100% complete and accurate about all the information that has been posted in the thread, the thread as usual also has some digressions. The software for this thread also takes you to the NEW posts not with post#1

 

[pattykay]

For clarification, as far as the premium package price changes, what is the definition of "new customer," new to the package, or new to Dish?

 

[Tampa8]

Maaaan this is some bs, I've barely had my account 2 years and this is the 2nd rate hike. At least I'm off contract.

I know huh. No other cable or satellite operator has had price increases over the last two years only DISH. It's not like DISH has had any increases in their operating budget or had to sign new contracts last year.

And this -

My local Comcast has had four price changes in the last 18 months. I've been a Netflix OTT subscriber for just over two years and their price has gone up three times.

It is folly to assume that prices don't change fairly regularly. DISH has had a programming price increase every year but one since I've subscribed. DIRECTV has never missed an annual increase in that time.

 

[shadlom]

I know they all do it, I'll still whine lol.

 

[Mr Tony]

For clarification, as far as the premium package price changes, what is the definition of "new customer," new to the package, or new to Dish?

new to the package (at least that is how I read it)

 

[Tampa8]

it use to be 2-3 bucks a year. Then Dish did the old "hey we wont raise your rates for 2 years", then proceeded to do a $5 increase, then a 0 then a $5 increase again while Directv just did a $3 each year and the Dish subs thought they got the better deal

Except you left out (Paul Harvey rest in piece) "The rest of the story." First I'm not so sure Direct has only been going up $3 recently, and they didn't this year. Bottom line, however it has happened DISH packages are still the same or less than Directv. But the rest is the fees have exceeded DISH over the last few years in many to most cases. The first receiver fee, the now $6 RSN fee for my area in Ct, the $15 DVR or whatever they call it fee on non whole home receivers are all added over the recent years. So ya, I am getting the better deal every month to tune of about now $17 yo $18.

 

[king3pj]

My local Comcast has had four price changes in the last 18 months. I've been a Netflix OTT subscriber for just over two years and their price has gone up three times.

It is folly to assume that prices don't change fairly regularly. DISH has had a programming price increase every year but one since I've subscribed. DIRECTV has never missed an annual increase in that time.

I've been a Netflix subscriber since 2008 and my price is still $7.99. They may have increased the price a couple dollars for new customers but they have held their older customers pricing down. It's hard to argue with the value there for $7.99.

Maybe that's what Dish and other providers should be doing to combat the high turnover from people switching for promo rates every year. Show some loyalty for long term customers by keeping their price locked in instead of incentivizing people to keep switching.

Verizon lets people grandfather into older cell phone plans even if they are a better deal than what is currently available. Why can't that work in the cable/satellite business?

 

[ChadT41]

I've been a Netflix subscriber since 2008 and my price is still $7.99. They may have increased the price a couple dollars for new customers but they have held their older customers pricing down. It's hard to argue with the value there for $7.99.

Maybe that's what Dish and other providers should be doing to combat the high turnover from people switching for promo rates every year. Show some loyalty for long term customers by keeping their price locked in instead of incentivizing people to keep switching.

Verizon lets people grandfather into older cell phone plans even if they are a better deal than what is currently available. Why can't that work in the cable/satellite business?

Because the phone plans, and what you receive are different each year. Satellite and cable, you get the same channels and same features year after year. If there are changes, everyone is affected to reduce the "old" customers complaining about being treated differently(such as they do now for new customer pricing)

 

[Mr Tony]

Except you left out (Paul Harvey rest in piece) "The rest of the story." First I'm not so sure Direct has only been going up $3 recently, and they didn't this year. .

I never said it didn't. I was answering the question that was posted of "Also, why is the increase on the main packages always $5? I can see $2-3 maybe, but $5 a year is too high.
And expaining that previously it WAS only a $2 or $3 increase on both sides until Dish decided to do the "we wont raise your rates for 2 years" then raised them $5 the year before it and $5 the year after.

 

[king3pj]

Because the phone plans, and what you receive are different each year. Satellite and cable, you get the same channels and same features year after year. If there are changes, everyone is affected to reduce the "old" customers complaining about being treated differently(such as they do now for new customer pricing)

I guess I'm not really sure what you are saying in this post.

Verizon customers can be grandfathered into old plans and it works just fine. New customers don't get the old plans by complaining that they are treated differently. You are either grandfathered in or you are not.

Edit: I guess I'm just saying that if the cable/satellite industry would stop pushing these $30 off promos for new customers they could afford to lock long term customers in at their current rates without the yearly increase. It would also greatly cut down on customer turnover.

 

[truckracer]

Pretty soon TV service will be like a second mortgage.

 

[Troch77]

Pretty soon TV service will be like a second mortgage.

In some cases it already cost less to lease a car.
Even with the $8 protection plan , you still have to pay a fee for a service call.
Like putting gas in you leased car, and paying for an occasional oil change.

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[truckracer]

In some cases it already cost less to lease a car.
Even with the $8 protection plan , you still have to pay a fee for a service call.
Like putting gas in you leased car, and paying for an occasional oil change.

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True

 

[ChadT41]

I guess I'm not really sure what you are saying in this post.

Verizon customers can be grandfathered into old plans and it works just fine. New customers don't get the old plans by complaining that they are treated differently. You are either grandfathered in or you are not.

Edit: I guess I'm just saying that if the cable/satellite industry would stop pushing these $30 off promos for new customers they could afford to lock long term customers in at their current rates without the yearly increase. It would also greatly cut down on customer turnover.

I think you are reading it backwards. I am saying old customers will complain at new customers pricing(still) and will also complain if Dish doesn't include new channels in their package without losing the grandfathering. That would be the comparison that new channels wouldn't be added, and when channels drop from the At250 to the AT200, existing not customers wouldn't get it because they'd be grandfathered in the old package, based on the theory.

 

[ChadT41]

In some cases it already cost less to lease a car.
Even with the $8 protection plan , you still have to pay a fee for a service call.
Like putting gas in you leased car, and paying for an occasional oil change.

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Don't always have to pay a fee. A lot of customers have it auto waived....

 

[dishrich]

While I know we don't talk about this here, honestly, all these ridiculous price increases are doing is making more & more customers go to account stacking, which I see all the time. (this applies to BOTH satellite providers, as well as Comcast, since they went all-digital here & do all the activation/deactivation in the set-top boxes, which makes it VERY simple now) People are to the point that if they're going to pay these ridiculous prices for TV, they may as well split it w/family & friends & then can at least justify by sharing a (lower-cost per household) pain...not really any different than sharing cell phones on family plans. They know it will be almost impossible to get caught, so it's worth the risk.

The guy that bought my previous house is using a Comcast box for TV, that his brother gave him; his brother has every channel, so the guy gets everything as well & it's only costing him $10. (the guy in my old house is paying for internet-only, though)
I've got a friend that has sat DVR's at BOTH his son's homes; this latest increase just made the justification for him even stronger now. In both instances, the homes the son's just bought already had current, working dishes on the homes, so it was (very) simple plug-&-play for them; since they are both very young (in early 20's) & have other expenses, they would NOT even consider paying "full-price" for a pay-TV service.

 

[Troch77]

Don't always have to pay a fee. A lot of customers have it auto waived....

I'll be sure to take note of that.
I don't always have to pay for an oil change either.
But there is still a chance.

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[lparsons21]

While I know we don't talk about this here, honestly, all these ridiculous price increases are doing is making more & more customers go to account stacking, which I see all the time. (this applies to BOTH satellite providers, as well as Comcast, since they went all-digital here & do all the activation/deactivation in the set-top boxes, which makes it VERY simple now) People are to the point that if they're going to pay these ridiculous prices for TV, they may as well split it w/family & friends & then can at least justify by sharing a (lower-cost per household) pain...not really any different than sharing cell phones on family plans. They know it will be almost impossible to get caught, so it's worth the risk.

The guy that bought my previous house is using a Comcast box for TV, that his brother gave him; his brother has every channel, so the guy gets everything as well & it's only costing him $10. (the guy in my old house is paying for internet-only, though)
I've got a friend that has DVR's at BOTH his son's homes; this latest increase just made the justification for him even stronger now. In both instances, the homes the son's just bought already had current, working dishes on the homes, so it was (very) simple plug-&-play for them; since they are both very young (in early 20's) & have other expenses, they would NOT even consider paying "full-price" for a pay-TV service.

While there are those that do that, there is no 'justification', only rationalization. Rationalizing that they are thieves. But it doesn't change the fact that 'account stacking' is just two words that mean the same thing as thief.

If I'm not willing to pay whatever I can negotiate then I just do without whatever it is I'm wanting.