DISH Network Sues the FCC
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I feel the same exact way about the elderly.
Fact is, when the W Admin and Republicans were looking at seriously cutting the PBS budget, there was some serious pushback by the population, when they found out that such useless programming was to go away... which would seem to indicate that the programming isn't so useless to the populace.
You really need to not mistake outliving its usefulness to you with its usefulness to the general population.
Dish needs to come out with a new exclusive channel just for DISH Network subscribers.,since DISH loves to be in court so much.They could call it DISH COURT.It could air on channel 101 and be in HD.Charlie could be the host.You can call in every week and win prizes.The way things are headed we could be only seeing this channel and The EARTH channel in the future.......
aren't they going to launch like 60 horse racing channels or something? But they don't think they can squeeze in a littel PBS in HD?
According to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, there are more than 350 local public television stations. That requires a lot more transponders and bandwidth than 60 presumably SD horse racing channels.
But why didn't they oppose it before it was made into law.
To me it looks like they said... Gosh we don't like that PBS clause... but lets get the bill pushed through and then fight it after its signed into law.
Well, it sounds exactly like SD Must Carry. Charlie planned on a few and apparently thought we'll get them to change the law. Well, that failed and the SD thingy slowed down, because E7 and E8 just couldn't hack it. Here we go again, this time with HD most likely not launched in 50% of the markets let alone PBS HDs which may have multiple outlets in those markets. The programming on local Non-Coms should not be confused with National PBS either as many locals have local content with significant viewership.
Dish needs to come out with a new exclusive channel just for DISH Network subscribers.,since DISH loves to be in court so much.They could call it DISH COURT.It could air on channel 101 and be in HD.Charlie could be the host.You can call in every week and win prizes.The way things are headed we could be only seeing this channel and The EARTH channel in the future.......
fee for this exclusive channel just $5.99 a month
No dish does do it, but the timing is the same as new receivers. it just takes lots of time. and know there will be bugs along the way
Let the market decide? I guess Dish Network would then be happy to give up all the perks that were given by the government? For example, the free market has nothing to do with the Distant Network license, which was created by the government, so Dish Network would abandon that? Or the free market has almost nothing to do with the local channel license, so Dish Network could simply abandon OTA programming from their system?SamCdbs said:
It must be accepted that there is "the good with the bad". Dish Network is happy with the STELA legislation as they'll get the ability to use the distant network license, but not happy with the PBS mandate because the government is editorializing. Yet the lack of an attempt from the only mulitchannel carrier not to reach an agreement with APTS shows who is editorializing.
This is as it was 10 years ago, when Dish Network fought the constitutionality of "must-carry" because they didn't have the capacity. Or more accurately, after what we've seen the past 10 years, this is Dish Network finding a venue to bully anyone that won't let Dish Network exercise their master plan.
Yeah let anyone broadcast at any frequency they choose with any power level they want. Tha is an idea just waiting to pop.
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I think he was joking. He is a directtv sub which is now showing local PBS in hd: this a dish issues until 2012 when dish will have the bandwidth.
Yes but still caused delay
And they had to bring a bird in from WA to cover for it until they get E14 in place then they can have full (or close to in EA). Then they will get E 15 in place and in late 2012 E16. So it is delayed until they are closer to having full set of sats in both arcs. I would like to see them start the transition once 15 is up there. Which is what I think is happening.
And they had to bring a bird in from WA to cover for it until they get E14 in place then they can have full (or close to in EA). Then they will get E 15 in place and in late 2012 E16. So it is delayed until they are closer to having full set of sats in both arcs. I would like to see them start the transition once 15 is up there. Which is what I think is happening.
Very serious. The federal government has no business regulating the free airways or contractual carriage agreements between providers, networks, and customers.
The FCC is just another example of federal bureaucracy involved in something it has no business being involved in (No, it should not fit within regulation of interstate commerce as is defined by Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)
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Uh, they did. Look at my post back on page 4. The put up the same warning a full month before the law passed.
I find it funny that we have become so condition to the government controlling and regulating everything, that few people can possibly imagine things running without it.
Won't happen. Do you realize that many stations here in the SW broadcast out of Mexico in order to avoid FCC regulation, yet they manage to broadcast at appropriate power.
It will not be beneficial to them if they raise their power to compete with other stations broadcasting within the same frequency.
First, it cost them more money to operate
Second, the cost to benefit will actually decrease because fewer people will be listening or watching further away from the DMA. Few people are interested in local issues hundreds of miles away.
Third, advertisers will sensor them as negative attention will hurt both
Fourth, they will not want to do so because they realize others will do it to them, thus making all of broadcast suffer as a result.
This is what goes on outside of FCC regulation and it does work.
Dish claimed they could not meet the mandate back in October 2009. So, this is no last minute trick of Dish's. Dish never wanted this provision of STELA, but the way things work in Washington--Congress--is usually a law that has some things you want, and other things you don't want, and you either take it or leave it. Dish, like any other well-run company, took it, as STELA was already delayed at least 2 times before it finally passed.
Part of the crafting of legislation isn't just by Dish, but by it's competitors, and DirecTV has pushed through provisions in previous legislation that was there only to hamper Dish.
There is a very easy solution to this problem: the ding-a-ling politician, Anna Eshoo, who is so worried about transmitting "truth, entertainment, and beauty," (what CNN/Fox News, tons of cable channels, and History/NatGeo/Discovery together don't provide that?) should fight to allow Dish Network to provide the PBS National Feed in HD to all markets that do not have their local PBS in HD as part of the LIL (by the way, many people NEVER have the opportunity to view the entire PBS line-up for which their tax dollars paid for because many PBS stations other than the biggest markets do NOT air the entire PBS line-up) until the local PBS is in HD as a LIL. Of course, I'm being sarcastic, as the local station love their $$$$ and saw to it to limit access to the PBS National Feed via satellite. It illustrates a hypocrite Eshoo is, especially when she calls out Dish for porn, a few channels of it does not equate the number of PBS locals, often multiple locals in one DMA.
Dish can't really be blamed as this is common and not at all unusual. Broadcasters and others routinely sue the FCC for similar reasons. Unfortunately, it is how the game is played. It is apparent, unless the legislation specifically forbids it, that the FCC was unwilling to work with Dish (a temporary waiver with conditions) and allow it to get the job done by 2013, and we all know this is legitimately a bandwidth issue. So, a company does the next thing it has to do, and that is to sue the FCC. I have no doubt that a judge will evaluate this and side with Dish if the judge believes it is a bandwidth issue and can't be solved properly until the new sat is launched. The FCC has been overruled before, not everything the FCC requires or does nor what Congress mandates is in the end legal nor does it always follow its own requirements.
Part of the crafting of legislation isn't just by Dish, but by it's competitors, and DirecTV has pushed through provisions in previous legislation that was there only to hamper Dish.
There is a very easy solution to this problem: the ding-a-ling politician, Anna Eshoo, who is so worried about transmitting "truth, entertainment, and beauty," (what CNN/Fox News, tons of cable channels, and History/NatGeo/Discovery together don't provide that?) should fight to allow Dish Network to provide the PBS National Feed in HD to all markets that do not have their local PBS in HD as part of the LIL (by the way, many people NEVER have the opportunity to view the entire PBS line-up for which their tax dollars paid for because many PBS stations other than the biggest markets do NOT air the entire PBS line-up) until the local PBS is in HD as a LIL. Of course, I'm being sarcastic, as the local station love their $$$$ and saw to it to limit access to the PBS National Feed via satellite. It illustrates a hypocrite Eshoo is, especially when she calls out Dish for porn, a few channels of it does not equate the number of PBS locals, often multiple locals in one DMA.
Dish can't really be blamed as this is common and not at all unusual. Broadcasters and others routinely sue the FCC for similar reasons. Unfortunately, it is how the game is played. It is apparent, unless the legislation specifically forbids it, that the FCC was unwilling to work with Dish (a temporary waiver with conditions) and allow it to get the job done by 2013, and we all know this is legitimately a bandwidth issue. So, a company does the next thing it has to do, and that is to sue the FCC. I have no doubt that a judge will evaluate this and side with Dish if the judge believes it is a bandwidth issue and can't be solved properly until the new sat is launched. The FCC has been overruled before, not everything the FCC requires or does nor what Congress mandates is in the end legal nor does it always follow its own requirements.
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I want my kcts Seattle pbs in HD now not wait until 2013!! I am 71 years old, I might not even be around to enjoy it by then.
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