I don't see what the good thing about those who wait. If you wait whether you get it or not then when the time comes for whatever it is that may happen then everyone would see it regardless. Does that make any sense? lol.
DISH Network Retailer Chat Recap - "Hopper Special" - 2/16/2012
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Good point. They gave it a bad name then. I am sure they want you to pay that fee regardless of whether or not you add anymore Joeys or Hoppers. They know that there is a good amount of people out there that just want one tv now and may want another one later and they don't want to have to swap out other hardware for the Hopper later on if that were the case.
And you even get the privilege of LOOSING a tuner for that $1...
It's not all about the number of tuners. You guys are too stuck on that. It's about the functionality. The Hopper/Joey works the way I wish the ViP receivers worked from the beginning. The setup I have now is frustrating and annoying.
Two Hoppers vs. Two Duo's = Fewer wasted tuners since its all shared on the same network. Instead of one having just two tuners they each have three plus another three on the second Hopper. So the first can have three and the second three, first have four and the second has two left or the first can have five and still the second have a feed to record or have for live television. This is assuming each Hopper is dedicated to a television like the duo's in single user mode.
Another realization about the Hopper/Joey system. I think more people don't want a DVR or HD in just one room of their house. They want the same great functionality in all rooms of the house. This system does that for them along with sharing of all the content among all rooms in the house.
Another realization about the Hopper/Joey system. I think more people don't want a DVR or HD in just one room of their house. They want the same great functionality in all rooms of the house. This system does that for them along with sharing of all the content among all rooms in the house.
One good thing about waiting: you won't lose OTA tuners while waiting for SOON(tm).
There are single TV receivers out there. Both DVR and non-DVR. They aren't going away. They'll be installing non-Hopper systems for years. They may want it to be their primary install, over the years. Eventually, they may install Hopper with DVR deactivated for those with no interest in DVRs. Then, when they decide they want the DVR functionality, they pay the fee and Dish turns on the function. IBM did something similar for years- they installed a "large" HDD in every computer in certain lines. You wanted a "small" HDD, you paid for that much space, and the rest was unavailable. You want the "large" HDD, the tech came out, made it look good, and simply removed the block from using the rest of the HDD. BTW, IBM did not tell people this is what they were doing. Took quite a while before people caught on. Cost effective for IBM.
The move to Hopper/Joey is over the LONG TERM. Millions of receivers = many years. Look at how WA still doesn't have all MPEG-4. 8PSK, anyone?
Dish has a rating system, not really a "plan," for it's customers. Basically, the most profitable are "A." Most are "B" or even "C." They do not reveal how they calculate this. Kinda reminds me of the North Korean "tomato" system for rating the loyalty and value of it's citizens. But really, a practical system for cost effectively meting out bennies.
Another good thing are fewer fees for those using their duo's in dual user mode compared to Hopper/Joey.
Ok, trying to figure all the out.
I have 2 622s with 4 tvs attached. I also have a projector room with no tv feed, just DVD and BD. I would like to get all five in HD. So can I get 1 hopper with 4 joeys? I know there are only 3 tuners but there are only 3 people living in the house plus the projector would not get used a whole lot. If all three tuners are in use can the forth or fifth tv share a tuner that is use?
I have 2 622s with 4 tvs attached. I also have a projector room with no tv feed, just DVD and BD. I would like to get all five in HD. So can I get 1 hopper with 4 joeys? I know there are only 3 tuners but there are only 3 people living in the house plus the projector would not get used a whole lot. If all three tuners are in use can the forth or fifth tv share a tuner that is use?
Yes, the 4th or 5th can watch one of the other tuners in use, OR they can be watching DVR recordings. If all 3 tuners are recording programs, then all 5 TVs can be watching 5 other DVR recordings as well.
Again, NOT correct when the HR34 is used with thin-clients like the Joey's - ALL the thin-clients can do this.
Yup, made up our minds. NO HOPPER / NO JOEY - no Kangaroo boxes to keep clean.
mostly because of NO EXTERNAL OTA TUNER. Dish's version of OTA HD sucks in Chicago. The turn an incredible transmission from WTTW, Channel 11, PBS into absolute GARBAGE! Without the OTA tuner for TRUE OTA HD, this will never happen for us.
We'll downgrade to 222s and put 1 at each TV. Don't need the DVR function, rarely, if ever use it, but do want HD at each TV. 3 722s right now, so we will probably go down in costs just a tad. Another benefit. Should be lots of legacy equipment on eBay soon - at some VERY good prices, too.
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