Dish Network puzzle

[Rich Sherrin]

I have been away from satellites for years and now want to get back into it.
I just bought a Dish. It's the 500+ series and had an older dish 322 receiver. It says software version L 248.
I have one lnbf pro for 110 with single output. I have a dual lnbf pro plus for 119 and 118.7 that has 2 outputs. They are 2d and 1f, and a dual lnbf pro with 2 outputs for 129.
I followed the hookup to a dpp44 with and without a separator.
With the separator connected the check switch comes back with non bandstacked quad on ports 1,2,3,and 4 is not support as a diseqc device. Also non Dish pro lnb on dpp 44 ports 2 and 3.
On the satellite 2 on the 322 it says dp feed 119 even on port 1 and 110 even odd on 2 and no connection on 3 and 4.
I took the separator off and used dpp44 and 2 outputs to 322 and got non band on 1 and 4 and non dish pro on 3. This was satellite 1. Satellite 2 said non band on 1 and 4. It said non dish pro on dpp44 port 0.
Then port 1 and 4 no connection, port 2 single 110 odd, and port 3 dp dual 129 odd.

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

[navychop]

Well, I'll leave the tech side to others.

Why would you buy obsolete equipment? Even if you are contract phobic, modern, current stuff just doesn't cost that much.

You need to look at 1000 series dishes and LNBs. Your life will be simplified, especially if you one day go HD. Western Arc seems to be what you are looking at, but Eastern Arc "might" be better, depending upon your location.


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[navychop]

Anyway, perhaps a wandering Mod will move this to the Dish section, where you will likely get more views and answers. Would you like that? It is generally best if the OP requests such a move.

Welcome to SatelliteGuys. Sorry if I seem a bit harsh. There is plenty of help here, and someone better skilled than I can help lash your system together.


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[KazooGuy]

Pretty much agree with Navy on this one, you bought a bunch of obsolete equipment that isn't long for this world. I just left DISH after 11 years and being moved to the Eastern Arc from the Western Arc my entire time with them. Very frustrated with the lost signals I was getting with the EA, even after they had techs out to try to fix the issues. Prior to my move I could have counted on one hand the number of times I lost signal over the 11 years I had been with them. After the move a light drizzle caused the signal to drop out. Put up with it for 3 months and said that's it and pulled the plug. Good luck with them, depending on where you live you might have to be on the EA and a 500 dish will not pull that arc in and the 322 will not work on that arc.

 

[TheKrell]

KazooGuy, there was something wrong with your EA dish. I have no such issues here in northern VA.

 

[bobvick]

I had EA issues in Northwestern Alabama when it rained. I finally ended up getting it fixed myself by getting two 30" dishes one each on 61.5 and 72. Signals went from the 30s and 40s to the high 60s and mid 70s. Since then, I rarely get under the mid 30s in torrential rain and thunderstorms.

 

[KAB]

KazooGuy, there was something wrong with your EA dish. I have no such issues here in northern VA.

You are "solidly" EA, SW Michigan is "iffy" land.

 

[KazooGuy]

I had EA issues in Northwestern Alabama when it rained. I finally ended up getting it fixed myself by getting two 30" dishes one each on 61.5 and 72. Signals went from the 30s and 40s to the high 60s and mid 70s. Since then, I rarely get under the mid 30s in torrential rain and thunderstorms.

I was always in the lower to mid 40's range. DISH had a tech out twice at their expense to try and resolve the problem. They tried a new dish, lnb and cabling and never got them to improve much over 3 or 4 points and the next time it rained out it would go again. Like I said, I became disillusioned and left, I was fed up with the high prices with lack of interesting programing. Now I am an OTA and Netflix guy.

 

[navychop]

I had EA issues in Northwestern Alabama when it rained. I finally ended up getting it fixed myself by getting two 30" dishes one each on 61.5 and 72. Signals went from the 30s and 40s to the high 60s and mid 70s. Since then, I rarely get under the mid 30s in torrential rain and thunderstorms.

I suspect that the aim may have had more to do with the signal strength than the dish size.


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[bobvick]

I suspect that the aim may have had more to do with the signal strength than the dish size.


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Any time you are using a single reflector for more than one satellite you are going to have trade offs . I suspect what you said is correct. I doubt there is much of a difference in using the 30" vs a Dish 500 with an "I" adapter. I could get the 30" Winegards cheaper than Dish 500's.
Oddly enough, the old 1000.4 antenna that I had about 5 years ago when I previously had Dish (and the infamous 922) seemed to yield a higher signal than the 1000.2 they used this time.


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[jerryez]

No teckies out there to try to answer the OPs question or is hijacking the thread all that he is going to get.