DISH Hopper coming at CES ?

[dvrman]

So how often does this come up? Would you use it once a week? Twice? Is it really worth trashing half of your available storage on the off chance that you might want to watch something?

it is part of DISH's side of the hard drive so if you dont use it you wont get more space according to what Scott said.

 

[stardust3]

I bet this Release goes just like the 922.

First; It will deliver about 6 months to a year late with half the features shown at CES and it will be very buggy.
Second; if you are a long time loyal dish customer you will have to pay $400 to get it, $200 if you wait another year.
Third; Like the "Sling Extender" the clients will not be released at the same time and will be coming soon for the next 24 months then canceled all together.
And last; They will never get BBMP to work on them and just give up and quit installing these receivers entirely.

In case you haven't guessed I am more than a little bitter over having paid for a 922.

Yup, I agree, kind of like an old girlfriend who builds you up & up to leave you hanging with blue *****.......

 

[dare2be]

I bet this Release goes just like the 922.

In case you haven't guessed I am more than a little bitter over having paid for a 922.

I understand your pain, but remember, "past performance (or lack thereof) does not guarantee future results"

geez, when did I start sounding so optimistic???

 

[navychop]

That doesn't solve the problem of DISH wasting resources on promoting this loser product that could better be used to provide new and innovative programming options, better customer support and more attractive pricing.

:dead :dead :dead

 

[lakebum431]

What makes you think this feature isn't going to tie up four of the three tuners during prime time each weeknight?

Because I read the thread unlike you. Did someone take a leak in your Cheerios this morning?

 

[mike123abc]

I can't get excited about something that takes up a non-negligible percentage of the 2TB of hard drive space for which I might get a few hits a month (programs I'd wished I had recorded but didn't). This is one of the reasons I lost interest in the ViP922 with its overly large cache of PPV offerings.

You must not have the viewing habits of most households. Which is OK, you can turn the feature off and not worry about it. Dish takes half the disk space up for their own use anyways.

But, currently most households watch the big 4 during primetime or within 7 days. This will cover the basic recording needs of most households. Cable continues to chip away at the big 4 in viewers, but they still hold a commanding lead during primetime.

 

[harshness]

Then again don't get one.

I don't plan on it. The part we as DISH subscribers cannot avoid is how much resources DISH diverts to promoting this and whether it will pay for itself in the long run or whether the time and money could be better utilized elsewhere. These are the same kinds of questions that DIRECTV customers that don't appreciate sports programming must battle with.

I want help understanding the business case for such an offering.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

The part we as DISH subscribers cannot avoid is how much resources DISH diverts to promoting this and whether it will pay for itself in the long run or whether the time and money could be better utilized elsewhere.

It will pay for itself quickly in the time it saves in new installs, the cost of only having one hard drive in the house (instead of one in each room), the savings for not having to wire all new coax (you seen copper prices lately?) and so on.

I think if the software works as it should (which is the part that concerns me) then DISH will have a winner here.

 

[DodgerKing]

At this point, you can't do RVU without one of the enabled Samsung TVs. The lion's share of Samsung TVs don't support RVU! The only other CE company with a stake in RVU is LG and they've been completely mum on the topic.

To suggest that you can use whatever display you have or want is misleading.

I would also point out that at this time, there is only one RVU certified device (Pace C30) and it is not available to the public.

What are you talking about? I never even hinted at such a suggestion.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

This is from MultiChannel News.

CES: Dish Poised To Unveil Wireless Broadband Plans, Multiroom DVR: Reports
'Hopper' DVR to Feature 2 TB Drive and Three Tuners, According to Dealerscope
By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 1/5/2012 4:14:06 PM

Dish Network is planning to launch a broadband satellite service this summer to 8 million people in the U.S. and will debut a three-tuner, multiroom digital video recorder, according to reports that leaked out ahead of the satellite operator's press conference set for next week's Consumer Electronics Show.

A Dish spokesman declined to comment.

In a press advisory last month, Dish said it will announce "new offerings from Dish designed to enhance entertainment throughout the home and on the go" at a Jan. 9 press conference with CEO Joe Clayton at the Venetian Hotel.

Dish Hopper placeholderThe Dish broadband service will focus mainly on "tertiary" markets that are underserved by cable and telco services, according to an article in the January 2012 issue of trade magazine Dealerscope. The article was available on Dealerscope's website Wednesday, but had been removed by Thursday.

EchoStar in February 2011 acquired broadband satellite service provider Hughes Communications for $1.3 billion. EchoStar and Dish are independent companies, but Dish remains EchoStar's largest customer.

Also as CES, Dish will debut the "Hopper," a whole-home DVR with three tuners, a 2-Terabyte hard drive and 750 MHz processor and built-in Slingbox functionality to deliver video to multiple devices, the Dealerscope story said. Accompanying the Hopper DVR will be smaller "Joey" set-top boxes that serve as clients to the main gateway connected over the Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) specification, according to the article.

The Hopper also will include a feature called PrimeTime Anytime, which automatically records the primetime lineups of the four biggest broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC) for later playback, the Dealerscope story said.

Dish in September 2011 filed for trademark protection on "Hopper" and "Joey," covering DVRs, set-top boxes, universal remote controls and media-streaming devices.

Details of the Hopper DVR were also outlined in a post by tech blogger Dave Zatz, citing an article that purportedly originated from TWICE magazine.

In addition to the product announcements, Dish will drop "Network" from its name and will introduce a new logo, according to Zatz's post.

Zatz linked to a section of Dish's website, available via www.dish.com/hopper, that includes a placeholder message that says, "A whole new animal in whole-home entertainment. Check back January 9 for more information on the Hopper from Dish.

 

[DodgerKing]

Simple solution for you... Don't get one.

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with having additional options. It is not like they are taking something away and replacing it with this. Even though it will not interest me if I was a Dish sub, I can see this being a great option for many others.

I also love to see all companies become more innovative and create things that differentiate them from the others. It is this competitive technology that helps each provider grow which in the end is better for the customers they serve. Hopefully other providers will follow suit with something similar, including DirecTV. Even though I will not get this, I would love to see DirecTV have something similar to provider more choices for other DirecTV subs.

 

[yaz96]

I must have missed this...

How does it record OTA channels?
I saw something mentioned about USB, but didn't see any more....and definitely don't understand how.

 

[whatchel1]

correct term

News of this article is starting to get around the internet, so I have moved it back to the main DISH Network forum for discussion.

Needless to say it appears that it will be an exciting time at CES. I can't wait to see all of this new stuff.

This thread is definitely name correctly as it has hopped all over the place.

 

[dan188]

Does the blockbuster ondemand part mean we may see a more friendly ui to find tv shows and movies to stream if its true

 

[DustoMan]

750Mhz processor? Would it kill them to stick something in there where they don't have to software engineer their way to getting a box working at decent clip? I know Mhz aren't everything, but still. Stick a dual-core 1Ghz ARM processor in there or something.

 

[dare2be]

750Mhz processor? Would it kill them to stick something in there where they don't have to software engineer their way to getting a box working at decent clip? I know Mhz aren't everything, but still. Stick a dual-core 1Ghz ARM processor in there or something.

I thought the same when I read that. Hell, most smartphones have heftier processors than that.

 

[mike123abc]

750Mhz processor? Would it kill them to stick something in there where they don't have to software engineer their way to getting a box working at decent clip? I know Mhz aren't everything, but still. Stick a dual-core 1Ghz ARM processor in there or something.

It is probably a broadcom chip that does DVR, satellite decoding and other functions all in one like in their other DVRs. Essentially even trick play is done by dedicated circuits in the chip so there is actually very little processing to be done by the CPU. This is probably one of the fastest chips available for this market. They focus on features like how many satellite streams and decoding formats the chip can do, how many output streams, what sort of trick plays, etc., not on raw CPU performance.

 

[csmith5111]

I bet this Release goes just like the 922.

First; It will deliver about 6 months to a year late with half the features shown at CES and it will be very buggy.
Second; if you are a long time loyal dish customer you will have to pay $400 to get it, $200 if you wait another year.
Third; Like the "Sling Extender" the clients will not be released at the same time and will be coming soon for the next 24 months then canceled all together.
And last; They will never get BBMP to work on them and just give up and quit installing these receivers entirely.

In case you haven't guessed I am more than a little bitter over having paid for a 922.

I paid 400 for mine and love it. To each his own.

 

[csmith5111]

That doesn't solve the problem of DISH wasting resources on promoting this loser product that could better be used to provide new and innovative programming options, better customer support and more attractive pricing.

Did you see the last quarterly report for dish. I think they have plenty to spend on r&d. Should spend more.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Does the blockbuster ondemand part mean we may see a more friendly ui to find tv shows and movies to stream if its true

God I hope so!