I told you, in the beginning, the only way Dish is going to give you a Joey 4 or Wireless Joey 4 is with the Hopper Plus - which, btw is NOT required for a Joey 4 series to workMy saga just gets worse. The tech arrived on time and brings the same wireless joey I have have for years. I tell him it is supposed to be a wireless koey 4. At first he says there is no such thing and then backs up when I mention the hopper plus. He then states it will not operate without hopper plus. Tired of arguing I tell him just install it. It works OK, but now I am really ticked after reading on the forum someone bought a joey 4 and got it activated with no problem. Is there anyone I can talk with and make this circus wheel right?