DISH and 4K

[harshness]

I read today where Directv is putting up 2 new satellites this year...

Neither of the satellites is likely to launch this year, much less go into service.

...and will be offering 4K VOD by the end of this year and start broadcasting available 4K programming by the end of 2015 or 2016. There is now some 4K programming available (House of Cards).

Availability is the sneaky qualification. Remember that DIRECTV talked about offering a few linear 3D channels and PPV and now they are down to one channel of each.

So what plans does Dish have for 4K?

This is a valid question but it begs the more important question: with what available 4K programming? It probably takes more than 100 hours of programming to launch a channel (this was the problem with Smithsonian HD).

Unlike 3d, 4K is here to stay and by the end of 2015-2016 you won't be able to buy anything but 4K in TV's over 70", possibly not even 65".

I think you're way off base on these predictions. As long as there isn't a preponderance of content and an inexpensive way to deliver it, most won't subscribe unless there are at least a few linear channels. DIRECTV solved their 3D problem by making everyone pay for 3D. Is that what you recommend for 4K?

The 4K and 8K promoters are insisting that UHD content isn't generate 4K interest but I call hogwash.

I think most of us would rather see DISH offer high-bandwidth HD rather than UHD. Then again, I'd like to see them get some of the HD stuff that is currently available like Military History and bring back WFN HD.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I got one for $299. But it does not support the hvec standard.


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[ScottChez]

I predict 4K will be just like it was in the early days of HD and SAT.
Both Dish and Directv had just a few in HD, ESPN and a special Discovery HD channel
We will see the same think with 4K ESPN in 4K and Discovery in 4K and maybe one other for 1-2 years until it catches on. Just like with HD Both Dish and Directv must do something to stay compeditive. The cord cutters are switching to the web.

 

[bigjohnok]

I see 4k as being a gimmick like 3d tv's are. The jump from standard def to high def was a noticeable improvement.
I just dont see 4k tv's taking off as fast as hd tv's did.

 

[Hall]

There are 3-4 members here (he he) who will disagree with you about 3D being a gimmick

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[MikeD-C05]

I see 4k as being a gimmick like 3d tv's are. The jump from standard def to high def was a noticeable improvement.
I just dont see 4k tv's taking off as fast as hd tv's did.

Sounds like what I said a few pages back in this thread.

 

[acostapimps]

Sooner or later they'll want to force 4k down our throats, just look what happened to plasma, Just so we can buy the overly hyped LED's, This probably will create another fee in the future, and find a fancy new name for the charges, Sorry but I'll keep my plasma before giving in to sales tactic chatter.

 

[ChadT41]

I bet, as they become more common, hd will transition out as even being able to be bought, and only offered 4k. The price will be reasonable then, as much as it can be, but how long did it take to stop offering CRT and the other sd TVs during the transitioning. I say more than 10 years. But that's just my opinion. No facts to back it up.

 

[whatchel1]

After a few years in the military, I would never own a plasma. Things get moved far to much for that stuff

What's moving have to do w/it I've seen LCD's broken almost as often as plasma's.

 

[ChadT41]

Can't lay them on their sides, can't position them certain ways. Obviously if you mishandle any electronic it will break, but plasmas have more ways to get ruined.

 

[whatchel1]

Can't lay them on their sides, can't position them certain ways. Obviously if you mishandle any electronic it will break, but plasmas have more ways to get ruined.

Don't know what you are talking about. Never known you can't put them on their side. As at a TV station I previously worked at we had a rotating mount on a 42" plasma so we could use it either in standard use or for text to be read. Please if you have one give me a link to problems that putting a plasma on it's side is a problem.

 

[ChadT41]

My dad has worked at a tv repair shop, since I was a little boy. Ever since plasmas came out, their number one issue had always been the plasma "leak" from either being laid wrong, or mishandled in general. Every single one of those guys in that shop, all say the same thing. Don't buy a plasma. They are a PITA, and until recently, more expensive anyways. They used to have the PQ to sway people, but nowadays LED I think looks better, and isn't as sensitive. I'm not gonna say which company he works for, but it is one of the biggest rent to own companies in the country.

 

[KAB]

Chad, when my mother moved out her house into assisted living, the movers (who I did not oversee) put her plasma face down in a storage unit. 9 mos later, when I retrieved it and fired it up, it was PERFECT. I ENTHUSIASTICALLY disagree with your opinion on plasmas vs LED.

 

[ChadT41]

I respect your opinion and experience, but I think it's safe to say "agree to disagree". I could never get behind them, but there is a reason they have such a huge market.

 

[KAB]

I respect your opinion and experience, but I think it's safe to say "agree to disagree". I could never get behind them, but there is a reason they have such a huge market.

Have you ever owned one?

 

[ChadT41]

Just helped tthe old man, and other friends in the barracks fix or replace them. I told you, after seeing the damage that can be caused, I refuse to buy one myself. But they are all over the place.

 

[ChadT41]

Besides, they are a lot heavier too, and I just don't want to deal with them either. LED are significantly lighter.

 

[whatchel1]

Well then you and your family can agree to disagree with me as well. I have a 27" 1080p LED for a PC monitor and it's nice. But the blacks are "greyish" and it is completely totally impossible to change that. So far there has been no way to make a black w/plastic that has been able to be produced w/ the glass. Has to do w/ the fact that LCD/LED's are plastic. At the last 2 TV stations I worked for we used both technologies. But mostly all of us in engineering preferred plasma's over the LED/LCD's. As far as weigh goes it depends on the manufacture of the unit. Had some Vizio's LCD's that made plasma's light in comparison. What most often had us choose the LED/LCD was price. Of the 5 TV stations I've worked w/since school I've used 100's of both types of displays. So all this said that is why I wish that there was such a thing as a plasma 4k. But alas there isn't and this is why I really hope that OLED is as good as it is claimed to be. The fact that OLED is supposed to be the closest to CRT's and every eng I've known has preferred those but they became near obsolete and do weight a ton(my 1st HDTV was a CRT and some motorcycles weighed less). But I sure can't afford to purchase one of those units. Here's an article that details the way an OLED works. http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-oled-tv/

 

[Hall]

Does Samsung know what they're talking about ?

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00022603/22771/Y/LN46D550K1FXZA

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[whatchel1]

Does Samsung know what they're talking about ?

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00022603/22771/Y/LN46D550K1FXZA

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As far as assembly I've done my personal ones on carpeting. For in the TV stations we placed the towels on the table and done that. I've never transported on laying down. I've never stored one so I would have to go only on what KAB has stated about it.