Oh really? Seems to me you like typing your diatribes and not reading our pretty much majority opinions.
Dish and 3D - missing in action?
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Oh really? Seems to me you like typing your diatribes and not reading our pretty much majority opinions.
The opinions of individual choir members are left behind when the conductor walks into the room.
In this concert, the conductor is Dish. They are about to take the podium. And they don't share your opinion of how to conduct the score!
What are you gonna do? Quit the choir?
Ken McPherson
In this concert, the conductor is Dish. They are about to take the podium. And they don't share your opinion of how to conduct the score!
What are you gonna do? Quit the choir?
Ken McPherson
Just because Dish is at the helm waving it's arms pretending on how to direct a choir does not mean it will become mainstream.
Dish has made mistakes in the past and we will see how this plays out.
Dish has made mistakes in the past and we will see how this plays out.
Agreed. If the side effects are significant, there's trouble in River City.
But other than side effects, what else could possibly stop 3DTV with the entire broadcasting/entertainment/sports/porn industry fully behind it?
I apologize if I was too long winded in previous post, but so far, none you you who feel 3DTV is a gimmick have explained how it meets the definition of a gimmick. I just wanted to fully explain why I believe 3DTV is inevitable.
We all have two eyes. Stereoscopic vision is is the normal human condition.The vast majority of the early reviews say the technology is good. It's affordable for early adopters. I can't understand why people wouldn't want 3D on Dish, particularly if it turns out Dish3D will work on current receivers without using extra bandwidth.
Ken McPherson
Your are obsessed, Kenny. There must be other things in your life that are more important. Well, maybe not.
IMO. Several things will keep it from being mainstream.
Wearing glasses while watching tv is the biggest drawback. I cannot see a large group of people watching the Super Bowl while wearing glasses. As I stated before, The sickness I had was real. I have had attacks of vertego in the past and while it was not nearly as bad, it had a similar feeling after viewing. The other is the economy. Even if people can afford 3D, a lot of people have not bought into it unlike HD. Bugs will be needed to get out of 3D and again , I do not think it will last long enough to perfect.
Wearing glasses while watching tv is the biggest drawback. I cannot see a large group of people watching the Super Bowl while wearing glasses. As I stated before, The sickness I had was real. I have had attacks of vertego in the past and while it was not nearly as bad, it had a similar feeling after viewing. The other is the economy. Even if people can afford 3D, a lot of people have not bought into it unlike HD. Bugs will be needed to get out of 3D and again , I do not think it will last long enough to perfect.
If this thing allows you to move around within a 30 deg cone, then how in heck can it present two different pictures to two eyes which are most certainly a lot less separated than 30 degrees? I frankly don't believe this article. "Multi-parallax" indeed! I think it possible that there are multiple sweet spots within a 30 deg cone, but I'd bet money that if you move your head just a little bit, you're going to be seeing either two pictures or the picture meant for the wrong eye.
One other thing. When viewing the 3D. Except for a few scenes where the monster was coming out of the tv, the rest of the demo reminded me of my Samsung 120hz with the smooth motion. Minus the sickness. That is where the glasses come into play.
Geeezzzz
My, oh my. Where have I heard all of these arguments before ?? Perhaps in the early 60's ( color TV ), or the early 80's ( CDs - wow, that was a BIG one. The first CD players cost over $3000, and there were virtually NO CDs for sale for almost a year, and then they were $30 and up. ), the early 90's ( DVDs ), the mid 90's ( HDTV - with almost NO HD programing ) and early this century ( Blu-ray ). And now it's 3D ! Same song, different product. If it were up to you bunch of curmudgeons, we'd still be watching our 9" black and white OTA TVs with the extra large cabinet and listening to a 2" mono speaker. And yes, I'm that old.
My dad was an early adopter of color TV. The neighbors all heckled him for purchasing a "fad", a useless product, something that was destined to fail. But on Sunday nights, every one of them would be in our living room watching "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color". What a mob ! I'll save a seat for some of you "nay-sayers" in MY living room so you can come watch 3D on my Panny TC-P54VT25. BYOG !!!! ( Bring your own glasses )
My, oh my. Where have I heard all of these arguments before ?? Perhaps in the early 60's ( color TV ), or the early 80's ( CDs - wow, that was a BIG one. The first CD players cost over $3000, and there were virtually NO CDs for sale for almost a year, and then they were $30 and up. ), the early 90's ( DVDs ), the mid 90's ( HDTV - with almost NO HD programing ) and early this century ( Blu-ray ). And now it's 3D ! Same song, different product. If it were up to you bunch of curmudgeons, we'd still be watching our 9" black and white OTA TVs with the extra large cabinet and listening to a 2" mono speaker. And yes, I'm that old.
My dad was an early adopter of color TV. The neighbors all heckled him for purchasing a "fad", a useless product, something that was destined to fail. But on Sunday nights, every one of them would be in our living room watching "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color". What a mob ! I'll save a seat for some of you "nay-sayers" in MY living room so you can come watch 3D on my Panny TC-P54VT25. BYOG !!!! ( Bring your own glasses )
Check your dates again.
3D tv is not new!!
3D TV Film History - 3D Screen, The New 3D TV Technology - The New 3D TV revolution is here!
3D tv is not new!!
3D TV Film History - 3D Screen, The New 3D TV Technology - The New 3D TV revolution is here!
My, oh my. Where have I heard all of these arguments before ?? Perhaps in the early 60's ( color TV ), or the early 80's ( CDs - wow, that was a BIG one. The first CD players cost over $3000, and there were virtually NO CDs for sale for almost a year, and then they were $30 and up. ), the early 90's ( DVDs ), the mid 90's ( HDTV - with almost NO HD programing ) and early this century ( Blu-ray ). And now it's 3D ! Same song, different product. If it were up to you bunch of curmudgeons, we'd still be watching our 9" black and white OTA TVs with the extra large cabinet and listening to a 2" mono speaker. And yes, I'm that old.
My dad was an early adopter of color TV. The neighbors all heckled him for purchasing a "fad", a useless product, something that was destined to fail. But on Sunday nights, every one of them would be in our living room watching "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color". What a mob ! I'll save a seat for some of you "nay-sayers" in MY living room so you can come watch 3D on my Panny TC-P54VT25. BYOG !!!! ( Bring your own glasses )
I understand, but this is a DIFFERENT situation. HD tv hasnt even caught up yet! We JUST went digital for t.v.!!! We STILL get few HD channels, and they are STILL compressed. Until HD gets perfected, like color was, then 3D will come in...
My, oh my. ... What a mob ! I'll save a seat for some of you "nay-sayers" in MY living room so you can come watch 3D on my Panny TC-P54VT25. BYOG !!!! ( Bring your own glasses )
And again, there's the catch...Why would anyone who doesn't have a 3D TV buy a pair of 3D glasses? Yes, when I was a kid my Godparents had a color TV and, if I was good in school, I would get to go over to their house on Sunday evening to watch "Disney's Wonderful World of Color", but I didn't need to bring anything special to watch it.
Also, I believe at this time, there are 2 or 3 different versions of 3D glasses out there, and they're not interchangeable. Correct me if I'm wrong on this (I'm sure someone will).
I still think the whole 3D home viewing thing comes down to being practical in a home environment for viewing movies...not that the technology of 3D is a loser. As I've stated before, for gamers I think 3D will be the next big step in gaming. Hopefully, from gaming in 3D they will learn how to evolve it for home movie viewing in a more practical way.
Ghpr13
The current crop of 3D TV's are interim technology designed to capitalize on the current 3D mania. I am waiting for 3D without the need for glasses which in my opinion is just around the corner as several companies already have working prototypes. Google "3D TV without glasses". How long before we see something we can actually buy is anybody's guess but I'll wager 3D without glasses is only a couple of years away.
ekilgus,
Think what paint drying would look like in 3D!
I never thought of that. Kinda makes me want to run out and get a 3D TV.
LOL
OrangeCounty,
Do you realize that all HD Programing has to be compressed to be able to fit in the limited available bandwidth. Even services that use Fiber to deliver content HD content as well as all Digital TV content is compressed using either MPEG2 or MPEG4 compression.
With all that said some companies compress more than others, and I would disagree with your comment saying there are "Few HD Channels". Most high rated channels are already available in HD. I'd say that most of the Core Cable Channels have an HD feed, Non HD channels are the vast Minority, Namely; TVLand, DIY (Going HD May 5th), FLN, GSN, Oxygen (Coming Soon), Fox Movie Channel, Ovation, Fuse, GAC, Nick Jr, Boom, NickToons, Discovery Kids, Soapnet, Discovery Health, Military, Documentary, Sleuth.
I might have missed a couple of low rated channels and skipped the Shopping Channels and PI Channels, but my informal count comes up with 19 channels out of 85-100 Core Cable Channels are not in HD, I'd hardly call that few HD Channels. Remember also that every Single Premium Movie Channel service is HD as well.
I remember being a Kid in the 60's and 70's, and that 3D craze. Sorry, but until 3D doesn't require special Glasses, eliminates the Eye Strain, and Headaches, 3D will continue to be gimmick.
John
That's true, but those additional new 3D channels for a handful of subs will be taking bandwidth from full-time HD RSNs, which many, many more subs would benefit from and appreciate...
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