I have been a loyal DISH customer for 10 years. I have been very low maintenance, getting almost nothing from them since my original new-customer discounts expired many years ago. I have 2 VIP 722 receivers hooked up to 3 TVs. My bill has steadily climbed to about $135/month (Top 200, HBO, Showtime, Starz, and Blockbuster at Home). I have been happy with DISH but want to upgrade to a whole home DVR service and lower my monthly bill. I spent about an hour on the phone with Directv yesterday to get an understanding of what they can offer me. From Directv, I would get a Genie HR44, HR24 HD DVR receiver, and one Genie mini. I would have to pay $199 for the HR24. As a new customer, I would get their Xtra package for $34.99 for 12 months (goes up $26 after that). DVR/receiver fees would be $27 for 24 months. All premium channels would be free for 3 months plus I would get NFL ticket free for 2013 season. I could also get either the $10/month referral discount (for 10 months) or a $200 Costco gift card if I went that route. Sounded good but I wanted to give DISH an opportunity to keep my business. I just got off the phone with a representative in their retention/loyalty department. They offered to provide the equipment (1 Hopper with Sling, 1 Hopper, and 1 Joey) for free and not charge a technician fee for installation. However, they would not give me any discounts on my programming, other than 50% off premium channels for 6 moths. Without the discounts, my bill will actually go up by $12/month. I mentioned all the new customer deals they have and if I could get some of those. They firmly said no, even after I said what they were offering would not be enough to keep me. So I guess they have forced my hand and it is time to give Directv a try. I am disappointed because I like to be loyal and i have enjoyed DISH, but they don't seem to value me as a long time customer. And even more frustrating is that after I switch, they will probably start calling with better offers and it will be too late. If a DIRT team member thinks they can help me, I would appreciate it. If any of you experts out there have any suggestions for me, I would welcome those too. Sorry this is so long. Thanks for all the great info on this site.