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I doubt any, they are already there because of ST.
See, I can answer your question, how about mine?
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See, I can answer your question, how about mine?
Based on the ACTUAL ratings, the ratings were:
NBC SNF 22.2M
NBC TNF 19.9M
Fox late 18.5M
CBS early 17.3M
CBS late 16.6M
Fox early 12.1M
(Note that both networks only show two games in Week 1 and Week 17, and that TNF moves to Amazon after Week 1.)
There aren’t 121M people who watch the NFL. You do understand that if a person watches TNF and SNF and a game early and late, your voodoo math is counting the same person FOUR TIMES, right?
A press release that just adds up the ratings from each game is not the same as that many unique viewers, which would be the potential customers for ST.
Just as if 40 people watched a Star Trek rerun at 9 and 40 people watched a Star Trek rerun at 10, it doesn’t mean that 80 different individuals watch Star Trek and that thus there are 80 potential customers for some Star Trek related venture. Probably the same 40 people watched both shows.
So your plan is to sell 33M subscriptions to a supplemental service when, in its best time slot, 34M people watch the “free” game.?
This is just a fundamental lack of understanding of how TV ratings work, which is pretty much the first thing you need to understand to understand broadcasting.
10 times the voodoo 121M or 10 times the actual 30M.
Actually we know the exact number. 2M.
Which is 15% less than can get it now.
You do understand the term “self-selection” right?
The ratings are published every Tuesday. I recommend you learn the basics of how TV ratings work.
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As usual, you do not posts links.
Now you have Fox early 12.1M, I assume that is for one game who knows where, what about the other 3 Fox Games at 1pm-
- 49ers at Bears (1 p.m. ET)
- Eagles at Lions (1 p.m. ET)
- Saints at Falcons (1 p.m. ET)
- Jaguars at Commanders (1 p.m. ET)
- Steelers at Bengals (1 p.m. ET)
- Patriots at Dolphins (1 p.m. ET)
- Ravens at Jets (1 p.m. ET)
- Browns at Panthers (1 p.m. ET)
- Colts at Texans (1 p.m. ET)
Fox-
- Packers at Vikings (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Giants at Titans (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Chiefs at Cardinals (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Raiders at Chargers (4:25 p.m. ET)
Post a link then instead of trying to hide it.
This what I found-
NFL TV ratings in 2022 – Week 1
- FOX’s “Game of the Week” – 18.55 million avg. viewers and 9.2 rating – Green Bay Packers vs Minnesota Vikings
- CBS’ early game – 17.39 million avg. viewers and 8.7 rating – Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals
- CBS’ afternoon game – 16.62 million avg. viewers and 8.3 rating –Kansas City Chiefs vs Arizona Cardinals
Patriots at Dolphins (1 p.m. ET)
Ravens at Jets (1 p.m. ET)
Browns at Panthers (1 p.m. ET)
Colts at Texans (1 p.m. ET)
Do not the viewers of these games count towards the total?
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7 people watched the Jets Game I was oneAs usual, you do not posts links.
Now you have Fox early 12.1M, I assume that is for one game who knows where, what about the other 3 Fox Games at 1pm-
Then the 1pm CBS games, you only posted one game-
- 49ers at Bears (1 p.m. ET)
- Eagles at Lions (1 p.m. ET)
- Saints at Falcons (1 p.m. ET)
- Jaguars at Commanders (1 p.m. ET)
Then the 4pm Games-
- Steelers at Bengals (1 p.m. ET)
- Patriots at Dolphins (1 p.m. ET)
- Ravens at Jets (1 p.m. ET)
- Browns at Panthers (1 p.m. ET)
- Colts at Texans (1 p.m. ET)
Fox-
CBS-
- Packers at Vikings (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Giants at Titans (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Chiefs at Cardinals (4:25 p.m. ET)
- Raiders at Chargers (4:25 p.m. ET)
Post a link then instead of trying to hide it.
This what I found-
NFL TV ratings in 2022 – Week 1
So, if the 1pm Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals had 17.39 million watching it, what about the other 4 games at the same time-
- FOX’s “Game of the Week” – 18.55 million avg. viewers and 9.2 rating – Green Bay Packers vs Minnesota Vikings
- CBS’ early game – 17.39 million avg. viewers and 8.7 rating – Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals
- CBS’ afternoon game – 16.62 million avg. viewers and 8.3 rating –Kansas City Chiefs vs Arizona Cardinals
Patriots at Dolphins (1 p.m. ET)
Ravens at Jets (1 p.m. ET)
Browns at Panthers (1 p.m. ET)
Colts at Texans (1 p.m. ET)
Do not the viewers of these games count towards the total?
NFL TV Ratings: Cowboys-49ers were a ratings bonanza for NBC
Get the NFL TV ratings numbers for the 2023 season, including weekly numbers for Thursday and Monday night football.
I think the terminology being used is quite easy to get mixed up. I believe the "avg. viewers" means average from start to finish. Not average per game. Because otherwise, if that were the case, MNF would be a huge number, easily 50+ Million.
The only thing I hated about going to college in NYC* (well... well... uptown). Jets or Giants. Be like going to a restaurant and having to choose between possum stuffed with rats or Cheese Nips.
FOX’s “Game of the Week” – 18.55 million avg. viewers and 9.2 rating – Green Bay Packers vs Minnesota Vikings
So, if the 1pm Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals had 17.39 million watching it, what about the other 4 games at the same time-
- CBS’ early game – 17.39 million avg. viewers and 8.7 rating – Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals
- CBS’ afternoon game – 16.62 million avg. viewers and 8.3 rating –Kansas City Chiefs vs Arizona Cardinals
Patriots at Dolphins (1 p.m. ET)
Ravens at Jets (1 p.m. ET)
Browns at Panthers (1 p.m. ET)
Colts at Texans (1 p.m. ET)
Do not the viewers of these games count towards the total?
NFL TV Ratings: Cowboys-49ers were a ratings bonanza for NBC
Get the NFL TV ratings numbers for the 2023 season, including weekly numbers for Thursday and Monday night football.
The numbers listed for the "early game" and "afternoon game" are TOTALS, not averages. You don't really think that each of those games only shown to a fraction of the country has almost as many viewers as a national broadcast "game of the week", do you?
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Never said that, but the number of how many watched those games is not zero, should be added to the total to give a accurate picture of how many NFL fans.
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Yes, for the one game at that timeframe, ignored all the other games happening at the same time on the same Network (Local Games basically).
While the ratings will not be as high as a nationwide game, they should still be counted towards the total.
what Sam posted-
CBS early 17.3M
Which was the Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals game
what I posted-
CBS’ early game – 17.39 million avg. viewers and 8.7 rating – Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals
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And there were 4 other games on CBS, all with different ratings then the one mention.
For example, the Patriots at Dolphins, I assume it was on in Miami, New England and maybe elsewhere, how many millions did it get?
All of New England
All of Florida
Southern Georgia
All of Alabama (because of Tua)
Most of NY minus NYC and Albany
maps for which area can see what game is at 506sports.com
Let's look at it a different way. There are something like 106 million households in the US. The ratings is the percent of people watching TV at the time, a percent of the percent. In order for that 121 million number to be accurate, I believe more households had to watch football than households exist in the US. It is double dipping.
National 5.6% of 50 share, means 53 million households were watching TV at that time and then about 2.5 million households were watching whatever.
PATRIOTS V DOLPHINS
The Patriots tv market (Boston) is about 2.5 million. The Miami-New England game did a 23.9 rating on a 62 share. If my math is right, that means in the Boston area... 2.5M * .62 * .239 = 370k households watched the game. Multiply that by 2 for simplicity for Miami and that is less than 1 million households.
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There are 128.11Million Households as of Jun 2022
And the average size of each is 2.53 people in 2021
It was actually at 3.33 in 1960, been going down since.
US Households Monthly Insights: Housing Vacancies and Homeownership | YCharts
In depth view into US Households including historical data from 1955 to 2024, charts and stats.
ycharts.com
Average size of households in the U.S. 2023 | Statista
The average American household consisted of 2.51 people in 2023.
www.statista.com
Thanks for the additional info. How does this change the math though? This would mean it is possible to say 2.5 million people watched the Patriots-Miami game.There are 128.11Million Households as of Jun 2022
And the average size of each is 2.53 people in 2021
It was actually at 3.33 in 1960, been going down since.
US Households Monthly Insights: Housing Vacancies and Homeownership | YCharts
In depth view into US Households including historical data from 1955 to 2024, charts and stats.
Average size of households in the U.S. 2023 | Statista
The average American household consisted of 2.51 people in 2023.
Amazon Prime game broadcast was good. Right now I would put my money on Amazon getting the Sunday Ticket.
It was indeed. PQ was excellent, announcers worked well together. The different feeds.
All in all, I was well pleased.
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