I swear that if Vurbano saw the exact same picture on two sets sitting next to each other and then was told that the bitrate on one was higher than the other he would then see the quality difference. Of course no other human being would be able to see it but Vurbano would. Just playing, V, I could have told you your post word for word before you even posted it. I will tell you again that because of YOUR posts I went out to check for myself. If you go back a bit in my osts you will see that I was with you in your crusade against HD Lite. But, when I checked the HD Pic on E* both in a home on a nice plasma set then at the local HHGregg, I was disappointed. I can't say that it was worse than mine (which I rather like) but it definitely was not better. No idea what the bitrates were, I prefer to use my eyes. THat said. If the PQ is not up to anyones standards, switch. I would have if E* or any of the local cables were better, but they are certainly not.