Deal with NPS to "save" distants on DISH!
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Same experience with NPS.
Didn't qualify until yesterday. They seem to have their act together on this now. Just keep trying if your having problems. They had my qualifications correct and hooked me up within 1 hour. Frustrating the whole experience, but i have networks again and i am currently pacified.
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Didn't qualify until yesterday. They seem to have their act together on this now. Just keep trying if your having problems. They had my qualifications correct and hooked me up within 1 hour. Frustrating the whole experience, but i have networks again and i am currently pacified.
:Kudos to NPS!
They called me on 12/12/06 left a message that they needed my smart card numbers. I called them back and was told that I qualifed for all four nets. I gave them my recvr info and my CC number and had ATL/SFO in my guide in about 10 mins. They also responded to my wifes email and we now have DNS on an inactive E* recvr. In other words they sold DNS to my wife who is NOT an E* subscriber.
They called me on 12/12/06 left a message that they needed my smart card numbers. I called them back and was told that I qualifed for all four nets. I gave them my recvr info and my CC number and had ATL/SFO in my guide in about 10 mins. They also responded to my wifes email and we now have DNS on an inactive E* recvr. In other words they sold DNS to my wife who is NOT an E* subscriber.
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Yea I'd probably delete this post if I were you. The scum NAB lawyers are all over this place.
Yea I'd probably delete this post if I were you. The scum NAB lawyers are all over this place.
Right, I got qualified last night by using my physical address too, they are NOT working in concert with E* for certain now. My point was about the receiver not in use being activated, I know the NAB looks for little things to try to make NPS look incompetent.
The receiver not being active is a good thing. See in the court documents that were filed NPS was accused of selling DNS ONLY to certian E* subs. The NPS E* agreement states that NPS can sell to any one but in the begining NPS was only selling to cutoff E* customers on a list provided by E*.
Now they are selling DNS to anyone which is the way it should be (E* sub or not). If NPS and E* are NOT working together then NPS can not be restricted in any way by E* as to who they can sell DNS to on the leased transponder. If NPS is smart they have not turned on any box that is not at an address that Decesionmark has not qualified. If NPS plays by the rules and follows the law then we should have DNS for a while.
Now they are selling DNS to anyone which is the way it should be (E* sub or not). If NPS and E* are NOT working together then NPS can not be restricted in any way by E* as to who they can sell DNS to on the leased transponder. If NPS is smart they have not turned on any box that is not at an address that Decesionmark has not qualified. If NPS plays by the rules and follows the law then we should have DNS for a while.
Think about it. After 800+ posts, this thread has become quite unwieldy. Much has happened since December 1. But what's wrong with closing this one off and starting another with fresh info?
Just read the entire 30 page ruling. To cut to the chase, go to the bottom of page 27. Overall very well written and researched decision. Especially like the part where the Magistrate connected the dots between Fox and Directv. Looks like Bimson is now down to batting 500.
Just one point: it doesn't mean it is over yet. 
Notice in the ruling how appeals can be sent to Judge Dimitrouleas over the next five business days.
Notice in the ruling how appeals can be sent to Judge Dimitrouleas over the next five business days.
Just one point: it doesn't mean it is over yet.
I would be suprised if they didn't appeal (within 5 days, not business days). Probably appeal as far as they can.
Mitch
This is great news. (For some of us anyway) A good step in the right direction. The NPS situation seems like exactly what the Court would approve - still punishing Dish while not punishing subscribers who live in a white area and are allowed access to distant networks. Hope it holds up!
Just wondering ........ If some company has a dispute and pulls it's programming in the future - can Charlie have us subscribe to it thru NPS? Would mean loss of money of course, but until they finally reached an agreement not a loss of many subscribers. Just thinking out loud.
Just wondering ........ If some company has a dispute and pulls it's programming in the future - can Charlie have us subscribe to it thru NPS? Would mean loss of money of course, but until they finally reached an agreement not a loss of many subscribers. Just thinking out loud.
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Just one point: it doesn't mean it is over yet.
However, it would be quite extraordinary for the Federal Judge to overrule the Magistrate. It does appear that the magistrate researched this entire issue very throughly and his recommendation was well thought out with much case law cited to support his recommendation. This recommendation was based on previous court decisions and not just some whim of the Magistrate. Absent some new shocking evidence presented by the plaintiffs, the Federal Judge will defer to the Magistrate's Recommendation as he is the one was charged with the duty to research the issue at hand. Great deference is given to the lower courts on these assignments. I highly doubt that this recommendation will be overturned at the Federal Judge level.
The key here isn't necessarily the underlying facts but rather the interpretation of those facts. Just as the 11th Circuit saw the case differently than did Judge D., Judge D. could likewise look at a "thoroughly researched" issue and come to a different conclusion. "New evidence" is not required. I rather suspect that this was fobbed off onto the magistrate because Judge D. thought (correctly so) that his time was too valuable to spend on a relatively straightforward effort, especially after the amount of time he consumed preparing the injunction pursuant to the 11th Circuit's mandate. Very few dentists clean teeth anymore. The hygienist does the grunt work and then the DDS/DMD comes in and pokes around for a few minutes before giving a thumbs up/down. That will be $95, please.
"...it doesn't mean it is over yet. ..."
But I do believe I hear a rotund lovely warming up.......
But I do believe I hear a rotund lovely warming up.......
