Coolsat 8000?

[lennygaudy]

Coolsat 8000 HD

anyone out there have this and can share their experience so far? I'm a newbie-recently bought Viewsat Ultra but was bummed when I heard I could have bought an HD sat had I waited a couple of weeks. Anyhow, just wondering if its worth the hassle of selling my unit and getting the new HD Coolsat. I was all hyped up about buying one until I read through the thread and realized that its simply an FTA receiver with an HD antenna - is this so?!!! And to think I was about to throw away $400+ Although I just started learning about these things seems from the forum that until they come out with a receiver capable of getting 4:2:2 feeds there is no such thing as HD FTA? Thank goodness I came across this forum before making a very expensive mistake...

 

[digiblur]

anyone out there have this and can share their experience so far? I'm a newbie-recently bought Viewsat Ultra but was bummed when I heard I could have bought an HD sat had I waited a couple of weeks. Anyhow, just wondering if its worth the hassle of selling my unit and getting the new HD Coolsat. I was all hyped up about buying one until I read through the thread and realized that its simply an FTA receiver with an HD antenna - is this so?!!! And to think I was about to throw away $400+ Although I just started learning about these things seems from the forum that until they come out with a receiver capable of getting 4:2:2 feeds there is no such thing as HD FTA? Thank goodness I came across this forum before making a very expensive mistake...

Maybe I'm taking your last sentence wrong but there are feeds in several flavors out there... SD 4:2:0, SD 4:2:2, HD 4:2:0, & HD 4:2:2

 

[Tron]

Although I just started learning about these things seems from the forum that until they come out with a receiver capable of getting 4:2:2 feeds there is no such thing as HD FTA? Thank goodness I came across this forum before making a very expensive mistake...

There is such a thing, but it seems like most of the HD up there is, for now anyway, 4:2:2 feeds... PBS being an exception.

 

[JohnH]

Those who watch ABC HD and CBS HD would disagree with you. Also, those who watch backhauls for ESPN HD, VS. HD, FSN HD and HDNET, just to name a few.

 

[Tron]

True, I forgot about C-band. I was thinking about Ku...

 

[johnnytuinals]

I am picking up HBO Starz PBS Discovery and a few others in HD on C/KU band..
I know I can buy a Samsung Over the air receiver for around $150 for my outdood VHF/UHF antenna so I can pickup many Digital stations......
Now since I own a Pansat 2500a why would I buy a Coolsat 8000D?
I know it will have the same Over the air decoder for digitals as the Samsung has..
I would hope that someone will come out with something that will decode the HD signals on DVB,,,I would like to Watch the Outdoor Channel 2 on HD but don't think the Coolsat will do that........
It would be a great price if it decoded HD stations on DVB......Let me know if I am wrong.................................JohnnyT

 

[Mr Tony]

I think it does 4:2:0 HD so yes you should be able to see the Outdoor Network and PBS HD on this

 

[altadata]

PBS HD 4:2:0 AC3
AMC 3 - Ku
12128 H
SR 14032

49/52,53/49

I'm new to FTA ...
You mention PBS HD on AMC3. If I look this in Lyngsat, the PBS HD as well as other PBS channels are listed as not Free ( they are encrypted ).
How can these be received legally with a FTA receiver?

Thanks.

 

[Mr Tony]

light yellow means free channel
light green is free HD channel
lightish brown is scrambled

 

[voomvoom]

It's sort of "moot" anyway. I read somewhere that it's moving to another TP on the 21st, and this one will disappear after the 31st. Since it's now the 18th, you have less than 2 weeks to enjoy it, at it's present location.

Al

 

[altadata]

light yellow means free channel
light green is free HD channel
lightish brown is scrambled

I see, I thought its free only if it has the "F" besides.
Now that makes it much more free channels available.

But in theory lets take the "WTTG-DT (FOX - Washington)" on AMC3. This is dark brown and it says: "DVB PowerVu". If I really wanted to get this one, how can I legally do so?

Thanks.

 

[Mr Tony]

you can't

powervu is a encryption and it needs a subscribed box for it (box is for commercial use)

as for the "F" if there is only one channel on that transponder, it will have the F next to the channel. If there is more than one, the first line shows the owner and says "F" and the channels below do not but they show as free

 

[johnnytuinals]

Hummmmm Iceberg
I called a guy that is selling the New Coolsats 8000D
He could not tell me if these units can pickup HD DVB stations......And he's a pretty big dealer.Said he will get the units at the end of the month and told me to call coolsat.I don't know if they have a number that I can call and they will speak english?..
Just hate to put a order in and get screwed when the 8000D comes...
I heard that the 8000Ds are going to be very limited,,,,,Just wondering when they run out,will they get more or is that it?Its hard to believe that will be it?....JOhnnyT

 

[el12]

Hummmmm Iceberg
I called a guy that is selling the New Coolsats 8000D
He could not tell me if these units can pickup HD DVB stations......And he's a pretty big dealer.Said he will get the units at the end of the month and told me to call coolsat.I don't know if they have a number that I can call and they will speak english?..
Just hate to put a order in and get screwed when the 8000D comes...
I heard that the 8000Ds are going to be very limited,,,,,Just wondering when they run out,will they get more or is that it?Its hard to believe that will be it?....JOhnnyT

I can guarantee that the COOLSAT 8000 HD is NOT I reapeat NOT SAT HD
only ATSC HD
IT's a total "scam" or misleading advertising that's why they try to presale them with "limited quantity " they want to make sure they sale them before the word get out that COOLSAT 8000HD canNOT decode HD sat signal
I have been looking and still looking for a FTA receiver capable of SAT HD

 

[lsat]

How can you "guarantee" the 8000 will not "decode" high defintion MPEG2 signals?

Have a look at the Quali-TV 1080IR... this receiver is capable of SAT HD.

I can guarantee that the COOLSAT 8000 HD is NOT I reapeat NOT SAT HD
only ATSC HD
IT's a total "scam" or misleading advertising that's why they try to presale them with "limited quantity " they want to make sure they sale them before the word get out that COOLSAT 8000HD canNOT decode HD sat signal
I have been looking and still looking for a FTA receiver capable of SAT HD

 

[johnnytuinals]

I think that the Quali-TV 1080IR is about $200 more and you cannot get over the air HD with it witha VHF/UHF antenna.....
I want the whole package Over the Air HD and DVB HD included.....
I heard Pansat will have a HD DVB out soon.So I guess I will wait a tad...
Yes I think your right that Coolsat is not saying much at all,Who in their right mind would buy one unless you don't own a DVB...Its a shame dealers are hyping this product..............JohnnyT

 

[Mr Tony]

I think that the Quali-TV 1080IR is about $200 more and you cannot get over the air HD with it witha VHF/UHF antenna.....

the Quali-TV gets 4:2:2 which the Coolsat will not

I heard Pansat will have a HD DVB out soon.So I guess I will wait a tad...

I also heard that Pansat will actually make a PVR unit that works properly. The 5000 & 6000 don't
yes that was sarcasm because the manufacturers have been saying they'll make a box that does X and its coming "soon" but never comes.

Yes I think your right that Coolsat is not saying much at all,Who in their right mind would buy one unless you don't own a DVB...Its a shame dealers are hyping this product..............JohnnyT

well lets see what it does in a actual review before we lynch a product. I've seen many products that claim to do something only to fall flat

 

[updatelee]

the quali-tv doesnt have blindscan its allways a trade off eh.