Commission Seeks Comment on Application by Dish Network for Delivery of Distant's
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What burns me the most about this whole SV issue is when you email a question about SV channels. ( I emailed CharlieChat directly ) They don't even answer the email. I also tried to call the last Chat and got blown off by the damn call screeners after a 20 min hold on the phone.
John I was wondering that myself, the SV list show WMTW in Portland Me as my SV channels and yet their transmitter was taken off Mount Washington,NH years ago. I suspect the list is outdated.
Once a stations is on the SV list for a particular county it is never taken off the SV list for that county, even if it fails to maintain coverage in that county.
according to the FCC's pdf it does cover your county still...but take them with a grain of salt
http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/maps_current/Portland-Auburn_ME.pdf
page 10 of pdf
I'd like to believe that to be true, but I don't believe it is...Tower Guy said:
I know for a fact that Prince George's County, Maryland, was carrying the Baltimore locals for quite a while, and then they were no longer signficantly-viewed, and dumped off of the list of both Montgomery County and Prince George's County.
Read the fine print in the FCC rules. It's there somewhere. The cable co's are not required to carry SV stations.
very true. Near our cabin in northern MN the cable company use to carry ABC & NBC from Duluth, MN (the county is in the Minneapolis DMA) but that was mainly due to a translator station in the town. Once the stations turned them off they were dropped from cable. The county was one of those use to be in B DMA but moved to A DMA a few years ago
Well Ice I can tell you maps say 1 thing and reality is another. The transmitter for WMTW is in the Lake Sebago,ME area about 125 miles from me. WMTW used to to have a translator in Lebanon NH but sold it to NH Public TV a few years ago. I can tell you I could put best OTA antenna,preamp and rotor money could buy and still only get 2 or 3 channels. Like you said I take coverage maps with a grain of salt
My Aunt lives in southwest Arkansas in Hatfield ,about 9 miles from Mena. She wanted Ft.Smith locals since she grew up watching one staticky Cbs station out of Ft.Smith. She feels that Ft.Smith dma seems to cover more of the area where she lives , including her weather area. I set her up with a 1000.2 sat dish and "moved" her to a Ft.Smith address and she is happy as a clam now. So "moving" is an option if the locals aren't to you liking.
pre digital
The problem w/ this list is the fact that it is based too much on the 1972 listings. That means that the maps it is based on has little to do with the coverage of digital transmission. The coverage of digital is much samll than the old analog transmission which was based on grade B contours. There's really no such thing anymore. Pretty much if you get outside of grade A contour the signal is no longer usable.
The problem w/ this list is the fact that it is based too much on the 1972 listings. That means that the maps it is based on has little to do with the coverage of digital transmission. The coverage of digital is much samll than the old analog transmission which was based on grade B contours. There's really no such thing anymore. Pretty much if you get outside of grade A contour the signal is no longer usable.
Noticed call letters on stations I am familiar with that have not been used in decades. For example the NBC affiliate here .....WRTN (Now WCNC) those call letters have not been used since I moved here in 1989. And I know it's before then because it was WCNC when I was visiting.
Tower Guy said:
Greg Bimson said:
Let me try this again, because there is a misunderstanding here. My parents, who I lived with in 1985 when we first had cable, received the Baltimore networks on their cable system in Prince George's County, Maryland. When they left PG County in 1998, those Baltimore stations were still on the cable system.Tower Guy said:
Therefore, those stations had to have been on the signficantly-viewed list.
Now, those Baltimore stations are no longer on the signficantly-viewed list for both PG County and neighboring Montgomery County, Maryland. They have been deleted from the list, so I am only calling into question the statement that "Once a stations is on the SV list for a particular county it is never taken off the SV list for that county". I know full well the Baltimore stations were on many cable systems around the DC area in the 1990's. And I cannot find those stations on the SV list for those counties any more.
yeah I see that. checking your tvfool report for Grafton it shows just NHPTV as the only station in the area
so yeah those maps are wrong in some cases
We should dispense with maps and DMA’s and all the accompanying nonsense like the illusion they’re protecting local advertisers because if they really cared about these advertisers, they would be paying re-transmitters to carry their signal, not the other way around. Subscribers should be able to view any local channel that’s available.
If I want to view all the NYC locals in HD, I should be able to purchase them. In summary, I should be able to view as many locals from around the country as my wallet can afford.
If I want to view all the NYC locals in HD, I should be able to purchase them. In summary, I should be able to view as many locals from around the country as my wallet can afford.
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I think we should that the local DMA but if we want to add to them from another area that that would be OK.
I think we should that the local DMA but if we want to add to them from another area that that would be OK.
