Coming Soon: The DISH Sling Adapter!

[Lord_Vader]

This is great, but I would really want the extender (catcher). I am really in kind of a holding pattern at the moment.

On one hand, I would really like to jump to FIOS. I can get the big triple play for about the same as I pay comcast (internet) and Dish. The idea of having the symmetrical 35/35 internet is very tempting.

On the other hand there is so much new stuff coming out, it's hard to make an informed decision right now. Dish has the sling / TV anywhere, and if done right I might be able to save some money. If I could run a 722k in the family room and sling HD to the bedroom, I could save the $17 for the second DVR. Not Earth shattering, but it puts them back into competition with my other choices. Then FIOS has the new software / DVRs rolling out soon as well. Bigger hard drives, eSata, better menus. Its also rumored that additional HD channels are on the way. Not to mention that you have the CETON card floating in and out of availability.

What's a Sith Lord to do?

 

[TheKrell]

Why does one need the Internet at all in order to view TV2/HD on one's own LAN? Even so, this is very tempting and (with appropriate hardware at the TVs) would allow me to drop two 612's off my account.

Lack of support for the 6x2's really sucks. Hardware limitation? And why wouldn't this work as well on non DVR VIP receivers? That would be another benefit of the standalone Slingbox Pro HD. That works with all Dish receivers at the expense of going through an analog step and another A-to-D conversion.

 

[bobvick]

I dont think its going to be released.

Are there problems with getting it to work? I guess this is another promised "feature" of the 922 that will never come to fruition.

 

[dangue]

Are there problems with getting it to work? I guess this is another promised "feature" of the 922 that will never come to fruition.

This kills the prospect of me buying a 922. How can they justify pricing it as a duo receiver when tv2 support is non-existent? There's no way for me to justify paying an extra $4/month DVR fee and adding an additional box for at least $10/month to serve a second tv.

This is a far cry from supplying HD to two tvs. It's an even farther cry from having a working tv1 and tv2 and sling (which was what was originally mentioned way back when at the CES debut).

 

[DustoMan]

I dont think its going to be released.

That would be really unfortunate, but given then it wasn't at CEDIA and there's zero mention of it on the TV Everywhere page not surprising. This would be a horrible missetp for E* because there is a desire for their customers to have multi-output in HD. An extender would be a benefit to not only the 922 early adopters but the 722 and 722k customers that buy one of these SlingAdapters and they would probably end up selling more of them. If they want us to buy multiple receivers then fine, but at least give us the ability to stream shows between receivers. D*, FIOS, and uVerse can all do it. Why can't E* make it work?

 

[dewzan]

hey scott, isn't there supposed to be a usb plug in for dish that will allow you to what tv2 in hd on a another tv in your house? I thought that was to be made available in late summer/early fall and didn't require internet?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Dewzan, thats the thing that I was saying that I don't think will be released.

It was kind of screwey anyways, had its own guide that looked nothing like the 922 guide...

For something like the 922 to really work well they need at least 4 satellite tuners in it. 1 dedicated to Sling, 1 dedicated to TV 1, 1 Dedicated to TV2 and another tuner so things can record even if the Sling TV1 and TV2 are in use.

 

[dewzan]

ok thanks scott

 

[bobvick]

So, I guess in other words, basically none of the promised features of the 922 will ever come, save for the "sling" portion of it and the different user interface. I suppose that we can hope that maybe it will at least equal the 722 in features, but nothing much more than that? I guess that it really is a dead end box.

 

[tomcrown1]

So, I guess in other words, basically none of the promised features of the 922 will ever come, save for the "sling" portion of it and the different user interface. I suppose that we can hope that maybe it will at least equal the 722 in features, but nothing much more than that? I guess that it really is a dead end box.

I have to agree, I was told I can downgrade to the VIP 722k. I am getting tempted to do this and get a separate sling box since the 922 can not do anything better than the 722k.

 

[mike123abc]

Dewzan, thats the thing that I was saying that I don't think will be released.

It was kind of screwey anyways, had its own guide that looked nothing like the 922 guide...

For something like the 922 to really work well they need at least 4 satellite tuners in it. 1 dedicated to Sling, 1 dedicated to TV 1, 1 Dedicated to TV2 and another tuner so things can record even if the Sling TV1 and TV2 are in use.

I would not mind sharing TV2 and sling at the same time. It would just be like the 622/722, but TV2 output is sling, you can use it remotely (like on iphone) or locally on a catcher, but they have to see the same thing. Essentially I want an HD output for TV2, and would be satisfied with also sharing it with sling.

 

[Jim S.]

o Network Bandwidth Recommendations
HD viewing: 3 Mbps or higher
SD viewing: 600 Kbps or higher
Mobile viewing: 150 Kbps or higher

Am I to understand that you have to watch it through Dish's website even if you want to watch it on another device in the same house? If so, does that mean that your UPLINK speed has to be 3M for HD? That's going to cut out a lot of people, like DSL customers, right there!

Not that it's of any immediate concern to me since I have a 622. Nice of them to not ever tell us that there was any substantial hardware difference between the 622 and the non-K 722, even though for years they always received the same software updates.

There should be a ban on non-technical people making decisions about technology.

 

[bradfordj]

I wonder if Dish will charge the $40 to unlock the USB port. If so will that be $99+$40?

 

[primestar31]

Am I to understand that you have to watch it through Dish's website even if you want to watch it on another device in the same house? If so, does that mean that your UPLINK speed has to be 3M for HD? That's going to cut out a lot of people, like DSL customers, right there!

Not that it's of any immediate concern to me since I have a 622. Nice of them to not ever tell us that there was any substantial hardware difference between the 622 and the non-K 722, even though for years they always received the same software updates.

There should be a ban on non-technical people making decisions about technology.

There is no effective difference internally between the VIP622 and VIP722 receiver. Certainly not enough to say: "Oh yeah, our new Slingbox will work with the VIP722, but NOT with the VIP622"!

The only difference, is the size of the hard-drive, and the firmware they choose to load to it. They probably are running out of VIP622's that can be repaired, and just don't want to support it much longer.

If a VIP622 can work with a standard Slingbox, it could certainly work with a "Dish" Slingbox, IF they chose to do so!

 

[mdavej]

Honestly (my opinion) you are better of with a stand along Slingbox...

While a stand along Slingbox might be harder to hook up then plugging in one USB ports a regular Slingbox is better because...

1) If you leave DISH in the future you can still use it.
2) You can use the real Slingplayer software and not be forced to watch through the DISH Network website... (I HATE the DISH Network website and I am not giving my kids or friends access to my full DISH Network account so they can use my Slingbox.)
3) If you decide to upgrade to the next generation receiver from DISH the standalone will work with it, while it could be ages before they build in support for the USB adapter much like the 922 does not support GoogleTV intergration currently.

All good points. But I'm really looking forward to this adapter for lots of reasons. It's very small, requires no external power or blasters and doesn't use up any outputs on the DVR or require a second ethernet connection. And it's much cheaper than a standalone sling or the $200 premium for a 922. If I leave DISH, I'll just sell it. I don't see myself leaving or upgrading for a few years anyway.

While I liked DirecTV2PC when I had D*, sling is much much better. All you could do on Direct is watch recordings on a PC on your LAN, which is little more than a useless gimmick IMO. Being able to watch anything, anywhere will be fantastic.

I plan to get one ASAP.

 

[DustoMan]

Am I to understand that you have to watch it through Dish's website even if you want to watch it on another device in the same house? If so, does that mean that your UPLINK speed has to be 3M for HD? That's going to cut out a lot of people, like DSL customers, right there!

The SD and mobile requirements are probably upstream. HD streaming is inside your LAN only. I know my video isn't going up to their site and back because when I stream inside my network I get 8Mbps going into my laptop. I have 3Mbps Up on my cable, there's no way DISH is working some voodoo magic to more than double my upstream bandwidth.

Dewzan, thats the thing that I was saying that I don't think will be released.

It was kind of screwey anyways, had its own guide that looked nothing like the 922 guide...

For something like the 922 to really work well they need at least 4 satellite tuners in it. 1 dedicated to Sling, 1 dedicated to TV 1, 1 Dedicated to TV2 and another tuner so things can record even if the Sling TV1 and TV2 are in use.

Why would it need it's own guide in the first place? Shouldn't it had just been receiving what the TV2's output displayed?

 

[AlaJoe]

I dont think its going to be released.

Scott could you please elaborate. Is this just a gut feeling or something you have herd? The catcher is the only reason I have stayed with DishNetwork. I REALLY like the way my 722 works but I am tired of watching SD on my 32"HD TV2.

This is still on the Dish Website as "coming soon" I just checked.

If not this how are they going to address HD onTV2. You can't even buy a SD TV new anymore. Every day that goes buy E's line of receivers become more and more obsolete.

 

[bobvick]

I would not call their receivers obsolete by any means. They are more technologically advanced than DirecTV's it is just what Dish Network will allow them to do, that is the problem. I cant believe that Dish does not have some MRV option at this point other than the "TV2" in SD. I am sure that the equipment is capable, it is getting them to do something about it.

 

[MikeD-C05]

The ability to do hd on two tvs at the same time, watching two different things in two different rooms , is why I bought the 922. Now if they don't release the hd extender I see no reason for anyone to buy a 922 at all. I should of stayed with the 722k I had. The 922 won't be integrated with google or do internet via the receiver itself, won't do hd via the extender , doesn't sling that well. Tell me why anyone would want to upgrade to the 922 again? Wasn't it you Scott, who said the future at DISH was all about the 922? I feel like I got ripped off on this receiver. I have put up with 6 months of bullcrap software and bugs and since the last update it is much more stable , but I never would of upgraded to it if I had known that all the promises made about this receiver were going to turn out to be bogus advertising.

 

[Stargazer]

History tends to repeat itself and people with their 922 complaints about software reminds me of receivers in the past that people had an issue with.