Class Action Lawsuit against Dish for Dropping Voom?

People keep saying I only signed a 2 year contract for a special deal. There was no special deal. Having to pay $150 to upgrade my service and get an HDDVR is a special deal/discount? Do you guys work for Dish Network or something?

I have a legitimate argument/concern. If you are a Dish Network customer, how can you not have some anger/resentment towards the company if they switch their HD programming with NON HD, upconverted, stretched, commerical ridden content.

Either I'm insane or people would prefer to watch a movie like Casino on Bravo for 4 hours with 1 1/2 hours of commercials, vs. commercial free 720p/1080i HD films on Monsters HD/Rave/Kung Fu/Gallery.

My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?

Granted im biased but thats a good argument!
 
Everyone apparently keeps ignoring the fact that Charlie owns 20% of VOOM. Is Charlie prepared to forfeit his investment by allowing VOOM to disappear or does Charlie have other plans?

BTW. The primary effect of a class action lawsuit (if it were possible) would be some unfavorable publicity which does produce results at times.
 
Unfortunately youa re never requied to sign up with any TV provider. That is a choice you made. you now regret rhe choice which is understandable under the circumstances. But the agreement we all accepted allows DISH to make changes to the programming. That is what makes this different from the tenant landlord situation.

Having said all that if you want to participate ina class action suit go for it. But people have already told you why they think it won't succeed. the one thing that I will grant you all is that DISH does not seem to have provided notice and contrary to an earlier post the residential agreement does discuss notice.

I am sorry but some of you seem to see this as "I am angry so i am going to go to court". Others are simply advising you that they don't think that the court will find in your favor.
And DISH owning 20% of VOOM HAS Been discussed before---several times. As for the publicity OK go for it and see what happens.
 
This is silly because VOOM will not be around by years end if Voom can not wrok out a new contract with DISH. Only one cable system has VOOM and they may drop Voom in the near future. Voom needs Dish. My guess is that in one month Voom will be back on Dish with a different lineup.


I like this statement, hopefully that will come true.
 
Both Voom and Dish remain in active litigation on these matters. I don't believe a 'gag order' has been issued by the judge, but it's always unwise to comment while trials and/or appellate processes are active.
 
Both Voom and Dish remain in active litigation on these matters. I don't believe a 'gag order' has been issued by the judge, but it's always unwise to comment while trials and/or appellate processes are active.


Very true you will notice both sides are currently very quiet on the subject which I am hoping is a good thing.
 
People keep saying I only signed a 2 year contract for a special deal. There was no special deal. Having to pay $150 to upgrade my service and get an HDDVR is a special deal/discount? Do you guys work for Dish Network or something?

I have a legitimate argument/concern. If you are a Dish Network customer, how can you not have some anger/resentment towards the company if they switch their HD programming with NON HD, upconverted, stretched, commerical ridden content.

Either I'm insane or people would prefer to watch a movie like Casino on Bravo for 4 hours with 1 1/2 hours of commercials, vs. commercial free 720p/1080i HD films on Monsters HD/Rave/Kung Fu/Gallery.

My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?

Assuming you got a 722, you could have payed $500 for a 722, and what, about $100 for a 1000.2 dish with lnbs, but you didnt, you signed a 2 year contract and only payed $150 for it, there for you chose to sign a contract for a better price...

I am very happy with dish's current HD line up, and YES i would prefer to watch something that I am interested in in SD on bravo than watch anything on Voom. I can count the number of times i tuned into a Voom channel on 1 hand, and after those few times, I saw all of the interesting content that they had. I say good riddance.
 
My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?
Speaking in those terms, overall your water wasn't shut off, your water pressure was reduced from what it used to be. Would it be worth it to sue because of slightly lower water pressure?
 
Only 2 things will be accomplished by suing Dish over such a trivial matter.

1) More lawyers will become even richer. And it won't be your lawyer.

2) Dish subscribers rates will go up even higher! Someone has to absorb the costs of Dish's legal fees, and it won't be Ebenezar Ergen!
 
Wonder how much crying, and for how long the crying continued if what was dropped was the RSNs, or the NBC Universal channels...its just TV, afterall...

That's because those channels are popular, wanted and requested by customers of cable companies, satelite companies and fios, etc. The VOOM channels aren't even on the radar of popularity with the channels mentioned above. That is why only one cable system in the whole country even carries any of their channels and why VOOM will be dead unless they re-ink a deal with E* do carry a few of their channels.
 
Dish and voom need to end this asap. People are hurt by this. Subs invested money no matter how you look at it.

There are people who take great joy in seeing true HD programming disolved. I think in the end we all suffer.

Again, forget its voom if ''you'' had programming you enjoyed and your sat company just pulled it while you were sleeping you would be just as pissed off as we are.

True its just tv. However we spend our good money to make it as enjoyable as possible.

I, for one, am not ''over this''. To those who say its enough, Im sorry to say, ill be over it when I feel like it!

I wouldn't wish this on anyone..No matter what the programming or jump up and down.

Well you are in luck we live in a free market system. I'm sure that some company out there will realize that there is now a huge void in the HD market because of the fact that E* no longer carries VOOM. My guess is that within a few weeks a cable company or satellite company will see this great opportunity and offer the hugely popular and requested HD Suite. Just be patient!;)
 
My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?
Those are two totally different things. Housing and water are NECESSITIES for quality of life, and there are laws (usually local) to provide renters with at least certain minimum standards. While some people may consider television service a necessity as well (many see it as a utility such as water, electricity, gas), it is NOT. Television is a LUXURY, and not just cable or satellite service but rabbit ears as well.
 
Both Voom and Dish remain in active litigation on these matters. I don't believe a 'gag order' has been issued by the judge, but it's always unwise to comment while trials and/or appellate processes are active.



Not sure how that relates to this. None of us are parties to that suit.
 
I think the guy has a point. On the other hand - other people are also right as well. Although they are only TV channels Dish had no reason to just yank them out like that.

For me, The only VOOM channel I ever watched was HDNews. And sometimes I would just channel flip and see if there was anything good on the other channels. For me - this whole VOOM is a loss- but not that big of a deal FOR ME at least. On the other hand, I can realte this to when the channel "TechTV" got turned into what is now "G4". I'm sure us geeks remember what that channel used to be.Those were the days... Oh, and by the way - it was exactly 4 years ago TODAY that the original TechTv got taken away. (May 28, 2004) Just thought I would throw that in there!

-Scott
 
Again, the only legit complaint I have is that I continue to be charged extra for Voom. Voom used to be optional and cost $5, which I was happy to pay.

Now, I am paying $10 for a package that costs $5 on DirecTV. But then again, no one is forcing me to continue. I can drop the package, but I don't because I love HDNet Movies. I can switch to DirecTV, but then I wind up paying more for other things and I still pay more. So, I suck it up. 90% of their customers don't even know the difference.

Dropping Voom was a good business decision, choosing to screw their best customers in the process was not. I have options to punish them by taking away my business. But in doing so, I punish myself in other ways.

Bottom line-Class action lawsuits are for whining idiots.
 

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