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Other than new chip sets coming out next year that will do 3-D better , nothing new. Basically this was a retrospective of Echostar/DISH's 30 years as a company.
It was Scott himself asking "What's next"?
I was at the satelliteguys holiday party and watched the CC on the DVR. I thought Dan Blather did a pretty decent job for a 79yo. I hope I have as much memory and presence of mind when I'm his age. I was relatively disappointed in the answer Charlie and Jim gave to Scott's question. We didn't hear about a single new thing that isn't released right now today. Charlie mentioned improving chipsets and how he's waiting to upgrade his own home to3D in about a year. Note to Charlie; the glasses will not be vanishing in 2011. The speed of the chipset has little or nothing to contribute to that. IMHO. He rattled off the model numbers of VIP receivers several times, but studiously avoided mention of the 612s or for that matter any of the non-DVR VIP receivers. He answered a question about the 622, stating that it would not be enabled for GoogleTV integration as rumor has it.
Amen re. the "chip sets" and 3D w/o glasses next year.
Pure B.S. Ain't gonna happen for years, not months. I'd be on the horn with D* today except I require a roof install and I don't think even Santa would want to be on me icy roof right now. I don't want or expect 3D for everything but I've got the equipment and it looks great. Now the trashing begins......Ed
The problem of course is that there is nothing going on at Dish that they can use to fill the hour up. New channel news is extremely limited, there really is not much more that they can carry. The equipment is pretty much stable now. This year they introduced the 922, Google TV and Sling, but they have a monthly show to fill. It is no longer the wild, wild, west of television where something new and interesting happens every month that they can fill an hour show.
I wonder how much longer they will continue the CCs? It must be pretty tough to sit up there and try to fill an hour up without just airing a bunch of customer questions.
I wonder how much longer they will continue the CCs? It must be pretty tough to sit up there and try to fill an hour up without just airing a bunch of customer questions.
Who thought about extra fees first, Charlie or the airlines??
Airlines bag millions in fees - BostonHerald.com
Once again Charlie is talking about receiver features for "next year" that they will never be able to deliver on. There is no way 3D television without glasses will be able to be done anytime soon. Even IF they were able to make a receiver that could do it, the current 3D tv's wouldn't be able to.
Yet I'm sure at CES this year they will be showing a non functional model receiver that they claim will be able to do 3D tv without glasses to be released "soon".
Yet I'm sure at CES this year they will be showing a non functional model receiver that they claim will be able to do 3D tv without glasses to be released "soon".
There are several companies that already have prototypes of non-glasses 3D. Panny, Sammy, & Mits are 3.
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
You got to remember that DISH works with the companies that make this stuff, Charlie has a good grasp on where things are going in the industry. Even if you dont like him take a look back over his 30 year history in the business and you will see he has a really good track record.
The transmit technology will probably be the same (side by side) so that receiver should be able to function in 3D fine.
Might be a case of Monkey see , Monkey do or in this case Monkey Accountant see, Monkey accountant do.
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
But the point is that DISH promises a lot of features that they never deliver on. Case in point the 922 from last year.
Here is some of the features promised at CES that DISH never delivered on,but promised they would.
1. Built in Web browser. (Didn't happen , you need a stand alone google revue unit now.)
2. Sling extender for tv 2 in HD ( Announced in press releases , never happened and you ,yourself Scott ,think it will never see the light of day).
3. Promised applications for the 922. (Never happened )
This is one receiver that is still not doing all they promised it would and it cost a lot of money to upgrade to just in lease fees, not to mention in out right cost to own. This receiver is just one case in DISH's 15 years of history. The original receiver promised features that never worked right ,due to legal issues with Microsoft , was the webtv/dishplayer. Great concept which the 922 was going to bring back-built in web browser.
Then the 721 pvrs with promised expansion ports for some future use. The 921 pvr, the most expensive of the DISH receivers at $1000.00 to own, and no lease back then either. Based on the 721 pvr but in HD. Another bricked receiver that is no longer supported due to Tivo lawsuit along with the 721pvr.
And now the new 3-D receiver , yet to be built ,will have the best chip set to do 3-D better than anything on the market! Come on Charlie how long can you dangle that carrot before our faces? This is one rabbit that refuses to jump anymore for Promised features, even if DISH does release press memos touting the new features coming SOON!
Mike they could turn on the browser in the 922 today if they wanted to but it would be useless without flash and java support.
I shouldn't say this... but the Sling Extender the next generation is in beta now and they are having good results.
And they Applications can still happen, the question now is is it worth it to have them? If you were an app writer would you probably wouldnt code for a 922 since its a totally different platform then everything else. This (like the browser) pulled the carpet from out of under the 922.
DISH did fall behind on the 922 no doubt. I do know there were chipset issues and driver issues which slowed down the rollout of the 922 greatly.
I shouldn't say this... but the Sling Extender the next generation is in beta now and they are having good results.
And they Applications can still happen, the question now is is it worth it to have them? If you were an app writer would you probably wouldnt code for a 922 since its a totally different platform then everything else. This (like the browser) pulled the carpet from out of under the 922.
DISH did fall behind on the 922 no doubt. I do know there were chipset issues and driver issues which slowed down the rollout of the 922 greatly.
That is just about every year or two at CES for DISH. Always non functional receiver that will be GREAT once they get it working. Then you suffer software bugs , glitches and then a loss of said promised features, once you get it ,over the year you have it. That is why I dumped the 922 and went back to a 722k. DISH ALWAYS promises more than it delivers in the way of technology.
Dish has been like this in the 15 years I have had them. I don't see that changing unfortunately.
Toshiba even has a production model (in Japan only I believe). Of course, it is a VERY small screen at an outrageous price. The problem seems not to be doing it, but getting the field of view to something that might make it acceptable. So far, everyone sits on the lap of viewer #1 or the 3D goes south...
We have two choices for affordable 3D display. Glasses, or clamping your head in a vice.
But! I'm delighted to hear the Sling Extender is not entirely cancelled. If the new gen is cheaper, I'll go for that! I finally got a hold of my wife's brand new gateway laptop, and it actually does HD from my Sling Adapter. Ho ho ho. But thinking about this some more, what I would really like to do is replace one or both of my 612s with the Sling Adapter and a Sling Extender. And that may never be a good option for us because the Sling Extender menu system will likely be more like Dish Remote Access than it is a Dish DVR. Not to mention laggy as hell.
But! I'm delighted to hear the Sling Extender is not entirely cancelled. If the new gen is cheaper, I'll go for that! I finally got a hold of my wife's brand new gateway laptop, and it actually does HD from my Sling Adapter. Ho ho ho. But thinking about this some more, what I would really like to do is replace one or both of my 612s with the Sling Adapter and a Sling Extender. And that may never be a good option for us because the Sling Extender menu system will likely be more like Dish Remote Access than it is a Dish DVR. Not to mention laggy as hell.
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