Can't get TwinhanDTV pci card to work

[partyharty]

To clarify the problem. I scan and get channels and I can watch them clearly, but if I closed the software and reopened it I find it telling me that it cann't play the program or lock failed.

Also sometimes I can see Nilesat channels only, sometimes Hotbird only, sometimes both and sometimes nothing at all.

It looks like it has a mind of its own. I am totally confused

I had a problem similar to this. ( I would open it up, it would find the channels, everything worked great, shut down the app and reopen it and I couldnt get anything).

The new version downloaded from the website helped (although this was a while back). If you are using the newest version then I havent got a clue.

 

[digiblur]

Well as I said before the setup is working just fine with my other reciever. And here the details of my setup:
1. 2 LNBs with dual output ( one pointing to Nilesat and the other to Hotbird)
2. 2 Disecs ( one for the normal reciever and the other for the pc card)
3. 120 cm satellite dish
4. cables less than 15 meters

To clarify the problem. I scan and get channels and I can watch them clearly, but if I closed the software and reopened it I find it telling me that it cann't play the program or lock failed.

Also sometimes I can see Nilesat channels only, sometimes Hotbird only, sometimes both and sometimes nothing at all.

It looks like it has a mind of its own. I am totally confused

What DVB apps have you tried? Have you tried the card in another PC?

 

[thelinuxer]

What DVB apps have you tried? Have you tried the card in another PC?

I tried progdvb dvbdream and twinhandtv, they all give me the same result.

And no i didn't try it on another pc

 

[WyrTwister]

If this cards has all these problem, why are they sold anyway?
The support of twinhan really sucks, they totally ignored me!

So it all depends on luck, you might be lucky and it works or simply it doens't.

I have a last question, does this card need a larger dish? I already told you that I have 120cm dish.

Thanx guys for replying
bye

No , unless you got a defective card , a 30" dish in North America works pretty good .

But my first card was defective . Got it replaced under warrenty & now all is fine .

There are at least half a dozen programs you can run for this card , free . I only install the Twinhan software to get the drivers .

Choosing a codex ( graphice drivers ) that works with your system is inportant once you get it up and running .

Check your sat setup , especially then LOF's for your LNBF .

Go to lyngsat.com and study the sat you want to hit . Pick out several Ku band channels that ate in the clear , on that sat .

Now , scan that transponder . Try tweeking the dish .

Keep in mind , if you are pointed at the wrong sat , you will probably get signal strength , but no signal quality and no channels / picture .

There is a big learning curve here .

Wyr

 

[WyrTwister]

Well as I said before the setup is working just fine with my other reciever. And here the details of my setup:
1. 2 LNBs with dual output ( one pointing to Nilesat and the other to Hotbird)
2. 2 Disecs ( one for the normal reciever and the other for the pc card)
3. 120 cm satellite dish
4. cables less than 15 meters

To clarify the problem. I scan and get channels and I can watch them clearly, but if I closed the software and reopened it I find it telling me that it cann't play the program or lock failed.

Also sometimes I can see Nilesat channels only, sometimes Hotbird only, sometimes both and sometimes nothing at all.

It looks like it has a mind of its own. I am totally confused

Find the ini files for DishPro and use them . Run a cable direct from the DP 3x4 switch .

Download the free demo version of MyTheatre . It quits after an hour , but that will tell you if the software is working .

Have never done DP on a card , so some one else needs to tell you how to do that .

Wyr

 

[VinceT3]

I had a problem similar to this. ( I would open it up, it would find the channels, everything worked great, shut down the app and reopen it and I couldnt get anything).

The new version downloaded from the website helped (although this was a while back). If you are using the newest version then I havent got a clue.

I get that with TSReader, first time or two it works like a charm usually picking up locals off dish. Close it and reopen it once or twice and boom I start getting retunes.

dvbdream has yet to pick up a channel and twinhans search finds a couple clear and like 10-15 scrambled (out of the 100's of dish stations), finds a radio station sometimes, but never adds it oddly enough.

I'm starting to get into this whole FTA stuff. I'll probably pick up a reciever and still not sure if I want a motorized dish or t90 pointed at several locations, but it won't be till after the wedding since the wife to be thretend that she would kick my butt if I didn't shut up about it till after the wedding.

 

[thelinuxer]

Find the ini files for DishPro and use them . Run a cable direct from the DP 3x4 switch .

Download the free demo version of MyTheatre . It quits after an hour , but that will tell you if the software is working .

Have never done DP on a card , so some one else needs to tell you how to do that .

Wyr

I am sorry, but I don't know what a DP 3x4 switch is, and where can I find the ini files?

I couldn't find Nilesat in www.lyngsat.com

 

[voomvoom]

Well, here it is:
http://www.lyngsat.com/nile.html

Al

 

[WyrTwister]

I am sorry, but I don't know what a DP 3x4 switch is, and where can I find the ini files?

I couldn't find Nilesat in www.lyngsat.com

DP 3x4 switch -> Dish Pro switch - 3 sat inputs - 4 outputs to Dish Pro capable receivers .

Base Address 25600
TP Legacy Dishpro
Satellite # Transponder POL Transponder POL
1 12224 V 12224 V
2 12239 H 13361 V
3 12253 V 12253 V
4 12268 H 13332 V
5 12282 V 12282 V
6 12297 H 13303 V
7 12311 V 12311 V
8 12326 H 13274 V
9 12341 V 12341 V
10 12355 H 13245 V
11 12370 V 12370 V
12 12384 H 13216 V
13 12399 V 12399 V
14 12414 H 13186 V
15 12428 V 12428 V
16 12443 H 13157 V
17 12457 V 12457 V
18 12472 H 13128 V
19 12486 V 12486 V
20 12501 H 13099 V
21 12516 V 12516 V
22 12530 H 13070 V
23 12545 V 12545 V
24 12559 H 13041 V
25 12574 V 12574 V
26 12588 H 13012 V
27 12603 V 12603 V
29 12632 V 12632 V
31 12661 V 12661 V
Dishpro Conversion Chart
Satellites 110 - 119 - 121
Base Address 25600
TP Legacy Dishpro
Satellite # Transponder POL Transponder POL
1 12224 V 12224 V
2 12239 H 13361 V
3 12253 V 12253 V
4 12268 H 13332 V
5 12282 V 12282 V
6 12297 H 13303 V
7 12311 V 12311 V
8 12326 H 13274 V
9 12341 V 12341 V
10 12355 H 13245 V
11 12370 V 12370 V
12 12384 H 13216 V
13 12399 V 12399 V
14 12414 H 13186 V
15 12428 V 12428 V
16 12443 H 13157 V
17 12457 V 12457 V
18 12472 H 13128 V
19 12486 V 12486 V
20 12501 H 13099 V
21 12516 V 12516 V
Base Address 24600
TP Legacy Dishpro
Satellite # Transponder POL Transponder POL
1 11724 V 11724 V
2 11739 H 12861 V
3 11753 V 11753 V
4 11768 H 12832 V
5 11782 V 11782 V
6 11797 H 12803 V
7 11811 V 11811 V
8 11826 H 12774 V
9 11841 V 11841 V
10 11855 H 12745 V
11 11870 V 11870 V
12 11884 H 12716 V
13 11899 V 11899 V
14 11914 H 12686 V
15 11928 V 11928 V
16 11943 H 12657 V
17 11957 V 11957 V
18 11972 H 12628 V
19 11986 V 11986 V
20 12001 H 12599 V
21 12016 V 12016 V
22 12030 H 12570 V
23 12045 V 12045 V
24 12059 H 12541 V
25 12074 V 12074 V
26 12088 H 12512 V
27 12103 V 12103 V
28 12118 H 12482 V
29 12132 V 12132 V
Note: To calculate the dishpro frequency, take the base address
and subtract the value of the horizontal transponder.
All dishpro transponders must be converted to polarity.
Sat 121 has a different base address than 110 and 119.
Example: Sat 110 - TP 10 has a legacy frequency of 12355 H.
To convert it to dishpro we take 25600 (base address) and subtract
12355 giving a result of: 13245. Change polarity to V and it's done.


Best of luck ,
Wyr

 

[grusome]

Most likely the culprit is you are using a DP34 switch. If you do not have another receiver hooked up to one of the ports on it, it will not work reliably. Some people that use the DP34 either hook up and old dish pro receiver or a power inserter for the DP44,to one of the receiver ports and power the switch that way. The Twinhan card by itself won't put out enough consistant power to handle the switch and work the lnb's properly.
grusome

 

[timmy1376]

I throw my experience in. I had one of the older 1020 twinhan cards, and it did NOT work. I emailed tech support, but no response. Should have never bought off ebay...

 

[VinceT3]

I doubt it's the switch.. I've taken the switch out completely and it still barely works..

 

[grusome]

Well, if it's not a switch, or a settings problem or a cable problem, then you are left with the card being defective. If you can return it for refund or exchange, then that would be the best thing to do.
I have had very good luck with my 1020a card. But, like everything else, once in a while you get a lemon.
Good luck.
grusome

 

[thelinuxer]

Well, if it's not a switch, or a settings problem or a cable problem, then you are left with the card being defective. If you can return it for refund or exchange, then that would be the best thing to do.
I have had very good luck with my 1020a card. But, like everything else, once in a while you get a lemon.
Good luck.
grusome

Actually I already tried removing the disec from the setup, and it still didn't work.

I exchanged the card, I am now working without the disec ( I am afraid to change anything) its working perfectly!

Thanx guys for your help

 

[WyrTwister]

Actually I already tried removing the disec from the setup, and it still didn't work.

I exchanged the card, I am now working without the disec ( I am afraid to change anything) its working perfectly!

Thanx guys for your help

Remember , do not connect or disconnect the coax cable unless the card is turned off . Safest to kill the computer .

Wyr

 

[FordPrefect]

I read this somewhere so here it is...since I do not know all the details...but try it; it seems to work for those people that have issues with that card...

Do you have the Twinhan BDA drivers installed or the Twinhan DTV drivers? It won’t work with the DTV drivers.

 

[Larry1]

I have a 1020a and have found it best to dis-connect any switches when scanning a transponder, then re-install the switch when the scan is completed. Have been using MyTheatre with it for recording the various channels on G10R for some time now. (about a year) When moving the dish, I use my stand along box and not the PC card.

I am using the following drivers:
(as listed in control panel hardware tab)

DTV Audio Controller
DtvAudio.sys
2/26/2004
2.4.1.1
but under driver details it is listed as 2.4.1.0

DTV Video Controller
DtvVideo.sys
2/26/2004
2.4.1.1

 

[FordPrefect]

I just read a forum where guys are using Twinham 1020 DVB cards and their clones…according to these guys these cards are not as bad as everyone is saying here…according to these guys…the key issue seems to be setup…knowing what values to setup and of course knowing how to connect dish to the DVB cards…I am providing this information for those that have Twinhan cards as well as cheaper clones.

Here is what most guys that have Twinhan DVB cards use:
EZDVB 2.20, WinDTV SDK 2.2 Build 03, WinXP, Directx9.

http://www.progdvb.com/

Try setting your LNB LOF to:
LOF1: 11250
Switch: 12700
LOF2: 0

Let me know if this work for anyone here...

 

[Anole]

For the OP with the two satellites, it's quite possibly just your diseqc switch.
The cheap ones (that includes about 95% of 'em) are touchy with Twinhan cards.
See discussion about switch mods over on MyTheatre forum.

Another thing one of my buddies found was that the crystal frequency on his Kworld card was off by a little bit.
That made tuning the transponders troublesome.
Perhaps Twinhan has had some bad crystals, too.
You might search for more info on the subject.
It should be documented by now.


As for the discussion of using a DP34 switch to watch the few free channels on Dish, that should be in a different thread.
Also, the transponder file listed above is not correct for the purpose (as posted, it needs to be modified).
I have used a PVR-powered DP34 to fire up new PCI and USB receivers for their first test.
I plugged into one of the four regular outputs, not the feed-through ports.
Besides the "You have a Dish 500" on 110, and the "You are pointed at 148" on 148 bird, there's NASA and Angel on 119.
Oh, and the very useful, "Dish Network For Your Information".
Out of about 1000 channels found, those were the best.
(and yes, I scanned reliably right through the DP34 switch with no trouble)

I went to the trouble of considering the more robust DP34 for FTA use.
Found used ones for $10..15 in good condition.
But without matching band-stacked FTA LNBs, it's the wrong tool for the job.
Those cheap diseqc switches (with modifications) are probably the way to go.