Can the DSR-4410 do DVB-S ?
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I just looked at the Modulation types in the Menu and they are:
DCII-AUTO
DVB-MAN
DCII-MAN
On the '-MAN' settings I get to enter Symbol and Code rates.
So DVB-MAN *might* do DVB-S or am I missing something?
Just found this in the Operator Guide "Demodulates DigiCipher® II or DVB signals" - so this means I'm good right?
DCII-AUTO
DVB-MAN
DCII-MAN
On the '-MAN' settings I get to enter Symbol and Code rates.
So DVB-MAN *might* do DVB-S or am I missing something?
Just found this in the Operator Guide "Demodulates DigiCipher® II or DVB signals" - so this means I'm good right?
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Yeah the 4800 series (also known as the digitrans 7150) will do both DCII & DVB (also will do DVB 4:2:2 too)
Also note if you are looking for one that if the ID reads all 0's the unit is a doorstop
It will power up and do everything but wont log any channels in
Thanks
Yeah the 4800 series (also known as the digitrans 7150) will do both DCII & DVB (also will do DVB 4:2:2 too)
Also note if you are looking for one that if the ID reads all 0's the unit is a doorstop
It will power up and do everything but wont log any channels in
My dte7150 will show all zero's for the ACE ID number until it gets a DC2 Signal than it shows the same number that is printed on the bottom sticker.. Just send those 7 door stops my way!!!! LOL!
When a consumer DC shows all zero's or has a RID that don't start with 000-021 or 000-031 its usually toast. The commercial units have a battery also and keep info in ram in the XC chip too. So battery replacement is not only for our consumer IRD's. I wonder if Motorola will reload a XC chip if the unit is commercial. They spit on us.
Those 2 are dead. I tried them on Shaw Direct and it wont work. No signal...one finally showed a signal but no picture and no maps. It shows all zeroes for the RID (ACE).
Sounds like a classic case of ROM flushed in XC chip to me. Take it apart and measure voltage on the battery. Weird thing is in the 4DTV they will load a bogus RID & UID after battery replacement on brain flushed IRD and will keep that # with a new battery. The XC chip is designed to spit out a number the first time it's powered up. Thats how the factory loads them from what I understand.
There are 4 options
DC2 Auto
DC2 VCT
DC2 manual
DVB
DVB is DVB-S (the DVB we know)
I always use DC2 manual for the freebies in DC2
Also I learned they will work with a LNBF...one of the settings for the LNB is HIGH for Horizontal and LOW for vertical
and yes you can do both DVB & DC2 programmed in at the same time
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The one issue with the 7150 when using DVB is sometimes the audio wont lock properly. DC2 99% of the time works fine but DVB I've seen it not log audio right. I know there is a thread on it somewhere
edit: found it
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/238527-some-digitrans-7150-questions.html
edit: found it
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/238527-some-digitrans-7150-questions.html
Yes. That's normal behavior for these receivers (the dsr-4800/dte-71xx series).
Also, if the unit ID has gone bad it will rarely show as all zeros. It just will not match the one on the label. It will be some random number. Bits in a memory chip aren't all zero after initial power up. At the time of power up they flip randomly to some value and stay that way until overwritten.
I don't have any first hand experience with a dsr-4800/DTE-71xx receiver with a bad unit ID as all the ones I've had were good, but I have had a DSR-4530 that had a bad ID. If the only problem is a bad ID, they will lock and tune DCII. However they are unable to decrypt anything and that includes FP. So, if the battery is dead you'll only be able to do anything useful on ZK signals or if you can use another unit with a good ID to decrypt by feeding the ASI out into an asi in on the good unit.
As for the 4410s ability to do dvb-s, I'm skeptical. I know the documentation says so and it's listed in the menus. As I said, I don't have a 4410 but have had at least 3 4530s which are very very similar to the 4410. Anyway, despite the fact the 4530 has the same menus as the 4410 and lists dvb-man as an option, I've never been able to lock a dvb signal on one of them. That leads me to believe the dvb support on the 4410/4530 family of receivers is either incomplete or they are very picky and will only lock signals with certain parameters. On the other hand the dsr-4800/dte71xx receivers do indeed do dvb quite well.
One thing we need to note here is we have discussions going on about 2 completely receivers. The original poster is asking about a 4410, yet the rest of you are talking about dsr-4800/DTE-71xx receivers. Though some of the basic principles still apply they're 2 completely different animals.
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So I did...try it that is...
Got Video but no Audio, had a read through the thread ICE mentioned above but couldn't find anything that helped.
Also, couldn't get the ASI Output to work either, the ASI parser returned 0 programs.
I was testing Al Jazeera English on PAS9 - 3840 V (TP 7) - SID 15 - VPID 1860 - APID 1820 - I checked this first with my Pansat 3500 and it worked Audio & Video
Install
Port 0 Setup
Mode: Manual
Sat: P09 (manually entered)
POL: V/RHP
Manual Tune
Input: Port 0
Mode: Xpndr
XPDR: 07
LFREQ: 1310 (determined by XPDR)
Modulation
Mode: DVB-MAN
Symbol ID: 27.690000
Code: 7/8
Channel
MPEG SELECT
Program: 15
Picture popped up - yay!
Audio no go
Checked Fast Facts 4:
Audio #1 Locked: NO
Any ideas on the audio or ASI thing?
Got Video but no Audio, had a read through the thread ICE mentioned above but couldn't find anything that helped.
Also, couldn't get the ASI Output to work either, the ASI parser returned 0 programs.
I was testing Al Jazeera English on PAS9 - 3840 V (TP 7) - SID 15 - VPID 1860 - APID 1820 - I checked this first with my Pansat 3500 and it worked Audio & Video
Install
Port 0 Setup
Mode: Manual
Sat: P09 (manually entered)
POL: V/RHP
Manual Tune
Input: Port 0
Mode: Xpndr
XPDR: 07
LFREQ: 1310 (determined by XPDR)
Modulation
Mode: DVB-MAN
Symbol ID: 27.690000
Code: 7/8
Channel
MPEG SELECT
Program: 15
Picture popped up - yay!
Audio no go
Checked Fast Facts 4:
Audio #1 Locked: NO
Any ideas on the audio or ASI thing?
I think its just one of those glitches with these machines when forcing them into DVB mode
Try an AC-3 audio feed and see what happens
Try an AC-3 audio feed and see what happens
So I had to get another 4410, the other checked out
However...with the next 4410 I do get audio - yay!
So to answer the original question, Yes! the 4410 can do DVB-S
I know this is an old thread, but the DSR-4402x, DSR-4410, and DSR-4410MD units can all do DVB-S and the 4410MD's can also do DVB-S2.
Motorola only allows Digicipher encryption, so it will only do unencrypted feeds, or pass an encrypted feed to an external decoder.
Motorola only allows Digicipher encryption, so it will only do unencrypted feeds, or pass an encrypted feed to an external decoder.
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