OTHER can I watch 2 satellites at the same time?

[unclejohn]

This is going to make me sound stupid but I have been trying all day to get some channels and after hours of trying and research it appears that I will need a second dish?

This is my set-up: dish on the roof, coaxial cable down from roof to back of fta receiver. This dish was installed years ago and the only channel that I cared about is the last one in this list

but today I realized I also need all the ion channels. so I went to my receiver's menu and it didn't have SES 18 and 19. so I created those with 103.0 W and 135.0 W in the receiver settings. Then I did all sorts of scans, blind scan, accurate scan, I messed with LNB settings from I think 550 to 1700. at the end of the day I realized that 103.0 W and 135.0 W are literally the positions of the dish upstairs?

so do I have this right? currently my dish is pointed at angle 97 W so it's not possible for it to be pointed at 103 at the same time? I will need another dish to watch ion channels? if the answer is yes, can the second dish use the same coaxial cable so I don't have to run another cable from the roof to my house?

 

[SDA_FL_USA]

Not doable with a KU dish. you will need a C band big dish for 103 Ion channels.

 

[Pepper]

Yes, you need either a motorized dish, or one dish (well, one LNBF) per satellite and the LNBFs connected thru multiswitches. It gets complicated real quick.

Additionally, if the frequency is C-Band (4000 Mhz range) you need a big dish preferably around 8 feet or more across. The smaller Ku dishes typically get frequencies in the 11750-12500 more or less.

 

[cyberham]

...I will need another dish to watch ion channels?...

I am receiving Ion, Ion Mystery and Ion Plus via streaming, if that's an option. Although Ion Plus is freezing after a few minutes. Not sure if this is a glitch this morning or typical since I don't watch the channels. Ion and Ion Mystery are playing in high quality.

 

[unclejohn]

I am receiving Ion, Ion Mystery and Ion Plus via streaming, if that's an option. Although Ion Plus is freezing after a few minutes. Not sure if this is a glitch this morning or typical since I don't watch the channels. Ion and Ion Mystery are playing in high quality.

thanks, how do you stream them on your tv? I know these channels play on tubitv website but connecting a laptop to the tv is too inconvenient for various reasons.

 

[cyberham]

...how do you stream them on your tv?...

My Edision Mio+ receiver allows me to download streaming addresses from the Internet. I can then stream the channels on my TV as though they are satellite channels which means I can record them also if I choose. Other receivers may have this capability. You must have a good quality high-speed Internet connection for them to play well.

 

[unclejohn]

My Edision Mio+ receiver allows me to download streaming addresses from the Internet. I can then stream the channels on my TV as though they are satellite channels which means I can record them also if I choose. Other receivers may have this capability. You must have a good quality high-speed Internet connection for them to play well.

when you do it this way is closed captions preserved or lost?

 

[cyberham]

when you do it this way is closed captions preserved or lost?

Showing closed captions (or not) is a function of the receiver used. Edision receivers are designed in Europe so they cannot show North America-standard closed captions. So I can't ever see closed captions with my Edision.

If I need closed captions, I watch the streaming address using PotPlayer on my PC as shown below:

 

[unclejohn]

Showing closed captions (or not) is a function of the receiver used. Edision receivers are designed in Europe so they cannot show North America-standard closed captions. So I can't ever see closed captions with my Edision.

If I need closed captions, I watch the streaming address using PotPlayer on my PC as shown below:

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wow you are so knowledgeable, I wish I knew as much as you.
let me ask you this. This is for my uncle who is an old man and doesn't know how to use a computer mouse. There is a website that plays live tv from another country (persian channels from iran). you click on a button on the screen, the channel plays. and then you click another button on the screen, another channel plays. I have connected a laptop to his tv via hdmi cable. but it's not practical for various reasons, the main reason being he doesn't know how to use a computer and keeps messing up my setup. is it possible to give him a more tv like experience, where he can sit on his couch and press a remote to change the channels?

 

[cyberham]

If he watches Iran e Aryaee from the 97W Ku satellite, then I assume he understands the Persian language. I am receiving this now from the 97W satellite.

I just checked my Edision streaming download and I can see 112 channels that supposedly broadcast in Persian including Iran e Aryaee, iFilm Persian, iFilm 2, Iran Jewish TV, Press TV (English), etc. Many of these 112 links may not work, but still there are dozens of Persian language channels.

There are streaming boxes available, such as Roku, amazon Fire TV Stick, etc., that can receive these streams and the box operates like a TV. Others are more knowledgeable about these boxes than me. You must have high-speed Internet preferably without data maximums to use them.

 

[unclejohn]

If he watches Iran e Aryaee from the 97W Ku satellite, then I assume he understands the Persian language. I am receiving this now from the 97W satellite.

I just checked my Edision streaming download and I can see 112 channels that supposedly broadcast in Persian including Iran e Aryaee, iFilm Persian, iFilm 2, Iran Jewish TV, Press TV (English), etc. Many of these 112 links may not work, but still there are dozens of Persian language channels.

There are streaming boxes available, such as Roku, amazon Fire TV Stick, etc., that can receive these streams and the box operates like a TV. Others are more knowledgeable about these boxes than me. You must have high-speed Internet preferably without data maximums to use them.

the streaming boxes show channels that are not based in iran. all of those channels that you mentioned are not based in iran. meaning someone moved from iran to another country (usa, turkey, great britain) and started a channel in persian language. what he wants is channels that are currently broadcast in iran, meaning someone in iran who turns on his tv sees those channels. we have not been able to find a streaming box that has those channels. right now in theory he can watch those channels on iran's official broadcasting website telewebion.com but he doesn't know how to use a computer and keeps messing up my system, closing firefox, restarting the computer, and he lives 40 miles away I can't keep going over there. I will post a separate thread about this because this is not related to my original reason for posting this thread. thanks for your help.

 

[cyberham]

Understood. In your new thread, list the specific channels in Iran in which he is interested. I can then search to see if I have access to them.

 

[unclejohn]

Understood. In your new thread, list the specific channels in Iran in which he is interested. I can then search to see if I have access to them.

I believe the internationally recognized names are:
irib 1 (or maybe without space irib1)
irib 2
irib 3
varzesh (which translates to sports)
there are more channels available there and he says he wants them, but I know he will never watch them. he just wants the above 4 channels.

 

[cyberham]

Wikipedia lists these four and the other Iranian domestic channels. Of the four channels you listed, none of these links work for streaming through my Edision though the links are there.

The only channels on the 97W Ku satellite that originate from Iran are:
Jam Jam Global Network 2 (Persian)
Press TV (English)
iFilm English (Persian & English)
Hispan TV in Spanish

The government web site mentions an app for use on an Android smartTV. If you happen to have one of these, then you could set that app up on the TV and he would have more of a TV experience.

 

[arlo]

The guys have it pretty much covered. With your uncle, you are in a bit of a pickle.
It would be possible with a ku band dish to place multiple lnbf's that would cover a limited arc. And the dish would not have to move.
It would require at least a 1 meter or larger dish. And a bit more preipheral device(s) to control which lnbf is active.
But with a single tuner satellite receiver. One satellite at a time.

Your Uncle. How teachable is he? The laptop at the TV with HDMI cable is a great idea. A bluetooth mouse and keyboard is perfect to put on the coffee table to control the laptop.
For a test. I went to the website you gave. And simply dragged the link from Firefox, Chrome, and Edge to the desktop.
Each one opened immediately when double-clicked.
I ran the website through Google Translate. And it came up in English.
Dragged that to the desktop. And it opened in English.

The options to use a streaming box sounds good too. The new Fire TV Cube has an HDMI input.
Alexa responds to "Alexa. Switch the TV to HDMI 1 (or 2, 3, etc.). And the same for launching applications on it.

For the life of me with my dad. I felt defeated.
I authored technical documentation at work for years. Trained workers to setup and operate complex machinery.
Condensed multi page manuals down to a ten-step "cheat sheet".
And then had a few of my close coworkers run through the steps. Rewriting and having them repeat the setup and operation procedures until we got it down to what became company wide standards.

I tried and tried with my dad to teach him how to play a DVD on his TV. Went over and over how to switch the remote control to a different HDMI port. He had no concept. He understood VHF and UHF antenna terminals.
Dish Network setup his TV so that when the satellite was on. Everything was automatic.
I could not no-how, no-way get him to understand that the satellite came in on HDMI 1 and the DVD player was on HDMI 2.
Nor how to switch between each one. He would switch the remote control for Dish to turn the TV off and then turn it back on.
Because once on DVD, he could not get back to HDMI1.
It beat me down. So. You have a job to do, mister.