Bluebird?

[chastulsa]

This guy approached me at work and was trying to sell me a DSS receiver for $200 that let me watch Dircttv, dish and Canada station. He said I paid him a extra $100 and he will subcrbe me for a year? He called this box bluebird anyone know what he is talking about?

1. Sounds illegal?
2. Sounds like BS!

 

[Mr Tony]

might be the blackbird which is illegal

DirectTv upgraded the cards so you can't get them for free anymore (hee hee)
and Dish & Bell are upgrading their systems too

Its a scam..Dish & Bell keep sending ECM's to zap them if you can get it going

 

[Mr Tony]

Please note that we do NOT condone hacking and if you use halk talk the post will be deleted

 

[korsjs]

might be the blackbird which is illegal

Blackbird FTA is not illegal. It falls in the same catagory as the pansat series. They are both legal FTA recievers and are only illegal if the receiver is modified to steal scrambled signals.

 

[stonecold]

Korsjs is right ....

techincally any FTA reciver that shares the same STi based processor that dish network uses in there recievers can decode dish. If you know how to put the Nagravision emulation on them.

The boxes will probably cease to function when the cardswaps are complete.

 

[Cascade]

Almost...
The Blackbird comes preprogrammed with the keys, they are exactly the same receiver as the Fortecs etc but sell at a higher price because of the crap that has been flashed into ROM.

Blackbird is illegal unless the ROM is flashed back to the original manuf code.

 

[Mr Tony]

and 99% of the time, when someone discusses Blackbird on here, their post gets vaporized

 

[timmy1376]

I just figured out Icebergs picture. That's his face when there is hack talk here.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I enjoy sending the persons verified infomation over to the good folks at Dish Network.

Last week we had a Hacking Site (and store) inquire about our advertising rates. I laughed so hard I almost pee'd in my pants. I had fun sending that email over to the guys at Dish Network.

 

[Mr Tony]

I just figured out Icebergs picture. That's his face when there is hack talk here.

that's pretty funny

 

[Mr Tony]

Last week we had a Hacking Site (and store) inquire about our advertising rates. I laughed so hard I almost pee'd in my pants. I had fun sending that email over to the guys at Dish Network.

That tops when hackers send me a PM and I say "why don't you ask it on the FTA section" and they do (can check Ip's easier that way)

 

[stonecold]

I would like to make something perfectly clear I am not a hacker. I just know about the internal guts of the recievers if Dish Network wanted my information it sitting right out there on DBStalk...

But the key problem is that alot of FTA recivers use that same STi processor that most dish network recievers used. So while maybe a every day "FreeTver" might not just be able to flash it an experience hacker would figure out the how to gear the illegal software to the memory available.... So no FTA unit should be pick out. The blackbird is probably some every day fta that some one put in a different chasis....plain and simple. these fta units are a gimmick to make more money... Back when DTV had the previous pre access card 4 (P4) cards DTV pirates made more money than directTV.....

There will always be some scam or gimmick but hopefully everyone here has the brains not to fall for something so stupid

 

[Mr Tony]

I understand your points but since we opened the FTA section (and the general one before that) more than 99% of the posts that have the "blackbird" "silverbird", whatever color bird you want, are hack posts and they are not allowed here, no matter what technicality you want to use.

 

[PSB]

Hack Talk!

WELL DONE SCOTT :clap :clap

 

[stonecold]

I am not supporting these FTA recivers.... Personally I think that forectec and pansat should stop making the models that abled to be modified and come out wiht a new generation that somehow prevents tampering.... Example the box has a way to update it self via the computer ( yes i know this is how those pirates are geting the illegal priate software on there well one possible way to curb this is when a legal update for the unit be it from fortec or pansat or whoever they incoprorate Digital signature on the firmware and only files with the manufactures Digital sig get installed. Some may ask why should any fta reciver maker care if some one steals service from dish or bev. But the fact is I belive that the companies do not want the rep of supporting pirates... Now while some of the people I know are diffently far from the brightest... but one person I know heard about that fortect unit and then walked into a local shop saw fortec and then called the police because they thought the dealer was selling illegal hardware. that is just a example But I have already written Fortect about some examples of using a RSA5 key to digital encrypt and digitally sign firmware updates allowing only fortect authorized firmware updates. They seem eager to learn more I sent them everything i had on it.

For Peter S Bain who screaming Hack Talk I am sure he would not like cops all over his place snooping around just because something thinks he dealing with illegal stuff. Not that he is but the word is getting out people dont know the facts so they go thinking perfectly legal fta boxes like foretec or pansat are illegal black boxes.... All I am doing is trying to clear up a mis conception saying it can happen to any number of reciever makes and models. It is just the latest gimmick for crooked people to make money off What is commonly known as Free TVers ones who do not see this as a challenge of techincall skill but just willing to pay anything to cheat dish or bev or whoever out of service.

Again if dish wanted my information I would of already contacted me.

 

[Mr Tony]

cold

Pete was talking about Scott's post, not yours.

We all know that people can hack anything (I'm not denying that). However, 2 things
-we done condone it here
-as I've stated many times before, any post that I've seen across here that has the word "blackbird" in it is a hack post...plain and simple

 

[Cascade]

Been through this already, countless times.
In retrospect The post should've been closed after the first reply.

I am not supporting these FTA recivers.... Personally I think that forectec and pansat should stop making the models that abled to be modified and come out wiht a new generation that somehow prevents tampering.... Example the box has a way to update it self via the computer ( yes i know this is how those pirates are geting the illegal priate software on there well one possible way to curb this is when a legal update for the unit be it from fortec or pansat or whoever they incoprorate Digital signature on the firmware and only files with the manufactures Digital sig get installed. Some may ask why should any fta reciver maker care if some one steals service from dish or bev. But the fact is I belive that the companies do not want the rep of supporting pirates... Now while some of the people I know are diffently far from the brightest... but one person I know heard about that fortect unit and then walked into a local shop saw fortec and then called the police because they thought the dealer was selling illegal hardware. that is just a example But I have already written Fortect about some examples of using a RSA5 key to digital encrypt and digitally sign firmware updates allowing only fortect authorized firmware updates. They seem eager to learn more I sent them everything i had on it.

For petere S bain who screaming Hack Talk I am sure he would not like cops all over his place snooping around just because something thinks he dealing with illegal stuff. Not that he is but the word is getting out people dont know the facts so they go thinking perfectly legal fta boxes like foretec or pansat are illegal black boxes.... All I am doing is trying to clear up a mis conception saying it can happen to any number of reciever makes and models. It is just the latest gimmick for crooked people to make money off What is commonly known as Free TVers ones who do not see this as a challenge of techincall skill but just willing to pay anything to cheat dish or bev or whoever out of service.

Again if dish wanted my information I would of already contacted me.

 

[Mr Tony]

done

the original posters question was answered and now all we are doing is bickering

closed