Back when Dish had the "Stop feeding the pig" Advertisements, they weren't kidding.

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Here I am comparing a popular Dish Package with Cable TV.

The set up:
America's Top 200 $59.99
HD Free for Life. $0
Whole Home DVR $10
1 Joey $7

Note that all of these Prices are non-promotional. I compared them with packages similar to Top 200, with HD and DVR Service to Two Televisions.

Dish Network: $76.99 a Month.
Directv: $89.99
Comcast: $83.89
Insight: $82.00
Time Warner Cable $80.93.
Cox Cable $84.55
Fios $84.98
Charter $89.97
 
Here I am comparing a popular Dish Package with Cable TV.

The set up:
America's Top 200 $59.99
HD Free for Life. $0
Whole Home DVR $10
1 Joey $7

Note that all of these Prices are non-promotional. I compared them with packages similar to Top 200, with HD and DVR Service to Two Televisions.

Dish Network: $76.99 a Month.
Directv: $89.99
Comcast: $83.89
Insight: $82.00
Time Warner Cable $80.93.
Cox Cable $84.55
Fios $84.98
Charter $89.97


Cheaper, but compare the channels and RSNs? if you live in NY State, no MSG, No SNY and No Yes. All of those others will provide those channels. So you are really feeding the Pig Charlie....because according to him.....those three RSNs cost him $10 to $15 a month. Must be he splits the savings with you...NOT!
 
The thing is not everybody lives in NY state and not everybody cares about RSNs...

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Here I am comparing a popular Dish Package with Cable TV.

The set up:
America's Top 200 $59.99
HD Free for Life. $0
Whole Home DVR $10
1 Joey $7

Note that all of these Prices are non-promotional. I compared them with packages similar to Top 200, with HD and DVR Service to Two Televisions.

Dish Network: $76.99 a Month.
Directv: $89.99
Comcast: $83.89
Insight: $82.00
Time Warner Cable $80.93.
Cox Cable $84.55
Fios $84.98
Charter $89.97
A little difficult to compare. DirecTV's Choice package is somewhere between Dish's Top 200 and Top 250. Depending on which channels you like, in order to get some of the same channels that are on Choice, you would have to increase your package to the Top 250 for $10 more/month after the promotion. This will put the base packages for both Dish and DirecTV at about the same price ($63.99 for DirecTV Choice, $68.99 for Choice Extra, $59.99 for Top 200, $69.99 for Top 250)

Depending on your equipment the prices could be more for one or about the same. The Hopper/Joey setup would save you money.

DirecTV:

Choice - $63.99
HD (could be free) - $10
Extra receiver - $6
DVR - $8

$87.99
$77.99 if HD is free

Dish:

Top 200 - $59.99
HD (could be a one time fee) - $10
Extra receiver (or Hopper Fee)- $7
DVR - $10

$86.99
$76.99 if HD paid upfront

If you go to Top 250

$96.99
$86.99 if HD paid upfront

As you can see, the prices are more or less the same

BTW, how did you come up with $89.99? Where did that extra $2 come from?
 
Also note how well Directv holds on to channels better than Dish. Ive had both, and they both have their plus's. I never once worried about Directv costing more, because I like the service. If it cost me $10 more a month to keep the channels I like, Im fine with it. But I generally sub to the everything pack/premier, so i want all the channels including RSN's.

Problem is, a lot of folks on this site are short sighted and think everything happens in their world. Certain folks here are doppelgangers of Directv people at DBS. Directv = evil, Dish does no wrong.
 
The thing is not everybody lives in NY state and not everybody cares about RSNs...

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True, but I bet Dish doesn't sell, percentage-wise, nearly as many higher tier, higher-profit packages in NY, RI and NJ because they've given up on NY RSN's. You do know that there is nothing stopping them from charging higher prices in those areas because of those RSN's. I think all national cabelcos like Comcast and TWC have regional price differences.
 
True, but I bet Dish doesn't sell, percentage-wise, nearly as many higher tier, higher-profit packages in NY, RI and NJ because they've given up on NY RSN's. You do know that there is nothing stopping them from charging higher prices in those areas because of those RSN's. I think all national cabelcos like Comcast and TWC have regional price differences.

Also note total subs and who keeps adding each qtr if you think the way Directv does things is "wrong"...
 
Price for Dish doesn't include a service plan. As far as I know CATV still makes service calls forfree and/or if a receiver goes bad you can exchange it at a local office.

In some cases you can also save money by subscribing to a triple or double play from CATV.

None of them are leaving many bucks on the table so you pay one way or the other.
 
Price for Dish doesn't include a service plan. As far as I know CATV still makes service calls forfree and/or if a receiver goes bad you can exchange it at a local office.

In some cases you can also save money by subscribing to a triple or double play from CATV.

None of them are leaving many bucks on the table so you pay one way or the other.

They may have triple play deals but they are only a deal during the promotional period. It seems the OP is trying to compare the regular prices. I know that Mediacom's triple play is a ridiculous price after their promotional period here.
 
I know that Mediacom's triple play is a ridiculous price after their promotional period here.


As is Time Warner. But hell, their price just for internet is ridiculous. Now that they added the modem fee, we pay $60/mo just for internet.

Our internet bill alone is now more than dish. We have a 722 and a 211k.
 
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Here I am comparing a popular Dish Package with Cable TV.

Dish Network: $76.99 a Month.
Comcast: $83.89

So you're telling me for $7 more a month (Of course, I only have one TV and no DVR, and cable prices vary by region, so that throws off the prices some) I can have:

1. No contract. A big deal if there is an unacceptably large rate hike or any given carrier drops my local RSNs or another "must have" channel (I have pay TV for my favorite sports teams and MSNBC, anything else I can replace with Netflix or similar services). If a "must have" channel or two goes, a contract is a dead weight because I am stuck handing over a high percentage of my monthly income for something I no longer want. That's instant switch time if I am clear of contractual obnligations.

2. Free HD equipment. I had to pay for a Dish install with SD equipment because they didn't like my credit, and they want big money and a new 2-year contract to upgrade to HD. Cable just gives it to you.

3. Return my equipment for a local office for free instead of paying Dish for shipping if I cancel.

4. Some secondary locals from the media market I grew up in that occasionally toss me an extra game from my favorite football team..

I didn't think the price difference was quite that small! ;)

And I could bundle with Internet to save more money.

Right now, I'm in no hurry because I am under contract with Dish, got a monthly credit for something, cable prices are higher in my area and I am still not clear on whether they are carrying what for me is a "must have" sports overflow channel (They dropped it before I left the last time), and still have a promotional rate for cable Internet that doesn't require bundling.

But, I've gotta tell you, when the credits on both ends expire, the contract is up, and Dish hikes rates again- Gosh, you know, I'd really like to be able to watch HD on my HD television (Even if it's only 720p). Something I'll be thinking about.

Anyhow, I'm with Dish for a reason right now. I like a lot of stuff about them. I'm just saying, $7 to get HD, secondary locals, not have to sign another contract (Critical for some), etc. might be worth it, especially if Dish is in a feud with your locals RSNs (Not the case with me, but certainly the case in some areas) and you mainly watch local sports on Dish.

Dish hasn't priced themselves *so much* lower that people are always going to ride out their favorite channels being dropped, not getting HD, paying for equipment, contracts, etc.. I mean, there probably is a price point where people would be like "Dish is so much cheaper, I don't care what the heck they do or don't do". I'd say that's around $40 a month, and unrealistic for them to hit price point wise.

I'm not sure the original case makes a slam dunk case for Dish. It's not like cable costs *a ton* more.
 
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Cheaper, but compare the channels and RSNs? if you live in NY State, no MSG, No SNY and No Yes. All of those others will provide those channels. So you are really feeding the Pig Charlie....because according to him.....those three RSNs cost him $10 to $15 a month. Must be he splits the savings with you...NOT!
And you are assuming every Dish subscriber cares about the NY sports and other local RSN's. Personally I could care less about NY sports. The country does not revolve around NY sports. As for local sports, I can get everything I watch from OTA.
 
So you're telling me for $7 more a month (Of course, I only have one TV and no DVR, and cable prices vary by region, so that throws off the prices some) I can have:

1. No contract. A big deal if there is an unacceptably large rate hike or any given carrier drops my local RSNs or another "must have" channel (I have pay TV for my favorite sports teams and MSNBC, anything else I can replace with Netflix or similar services). If a "must have" channel or two goes, a contract is a dead weight because I am stuck handing over a high percentage of my monthly income for something I no longer want. That's instant switch time if I am clear of contractual obnligations.

2. Free HD equipment. I had to pay for a Dish install with SD equipment because they didn't like my credit, and they want big money and a new 2-year contract to upgrade to HD. Cable just gives it to you.

3. Return my equipment for a local office for free instead of paying Dish for shipping if I cancel.

4. Some secondary locals from the media market I grew up in that occasionally toss me an extra game from my favorite football team..

I didn't think the price difference was quite that small! ;)

And I could bundle with Internet to save more money.

Right now, I'm in no hurry because I am under contract with Dish, got a monthly credit for something, cable prices are higher in my area and I am still not clear on whether they are carrying what for me is a "must have" sports overflow channel (They dropped it before I left the last time), and still have a promotional rate for cable Internet that doesn't require bundling.

But, I've gotta tell you, when the credits on both ends expire, the contract is up, and Dish hikes rates again- Gosh, you know, I'd really like to be able to watch HD on my HD television (Even if it's only 720p). Something I'll be thinking about.

Anyhow, I'm with Dish for a reason right now. I like a lot of stuff about them. I'm just saying, $7 to get HD, secondary locals, not have to sign another contract (Critical for some), etc. might be worth it, especially if Dish is in a feud with your locals RSNs (Not the case with me, but certainly the case in some areas) and you mainly watch local sports on Dish.

Dish hasn't priced themselves *so much* lower that people are always going to ride out their favorite channels being dropped, not getting HD, paying for equipment, contracts, etc.. I mean, there probably is a price point where people would be like "Dish is so much cheaper, I don't care what the heck they do or don't do". I'd say that's around $40 a month, and unrealistic for them to hit price point wise.

I'm not sure the original case makes a slam dunk case for Dish. It's not like cable costs *a ton* more.

I think I'd have to be paid to switch to cable. To me it's inferior in about every way possible. That's just my opinion though and I only have expereience with Mediacom.
 
Here I am comparing a popular Dish Package with Cable TV.

Dish Network: $76.99 a Month.
Directv: $89.99
Comcast: $83.89
Insight: $82.00
Time Warner Cable $80.93
Cox Cable $84.55
Fios $84.98
Charter $89.97

If those prices are accurate, and I am not saying they're not, then Dish isn't that much cheaper than most cable companies. I guess its the fees that get ya.
 
Someone was asking me how I got 89.99 With Directv.

Choice $63.99
Advanced Receiver Fee $20. (It's $10 for 24 mos, but remember I said I'm doing non-promo pricing).
Additional TV $6.00

$89.99
 
So you're telling me for $7 more a month (Of course, I only have one TV and no DVR, and cable prices vary by region, so that throws off the prices some) I can have:

1. No contract. A big deal if there is an unacceptably large rate hike or any given carrier drops my local RSNs or another "must have" channel (I have pay TV for my favorite sports teams and MSNBC, anything else I can replace with Netflix or similar services). If a "must have" channel or two goes, a contract is a dead weight because I am stuck handing over a high percentage of my monthly income for something I no longer want. That's instant switch time if I am clear of contractual obnligations.

2. Free HD equipment. I had to pay for a Dish install with SD equipment because they didn't like my credit, and they want big money and a new 2-year contract to upgrade to HD. Cable just gives it to you.

3. Return my equipment for a local office for free instead of paying Dish for shipping if I cancel.

4. Some secondary locals from the media market I grew up in that occasionally toss me an extra game from my favorite football team..

I didn't think the price difference was quite that small! ;)

And I could bundle with Internet to save more money.

Right now, I'm in no hurry because I am under contract with Dish, got a monthly credit for something, cable prices are higher in my area and I am still not clear on whether they are carrying what for me is a "must have" sports overflow channel (They dropped it before I left the last time), and still have a promotional rate for cable Internet that doesn't require bundling.

But, I've gotta tell you, when the credits on both ends expire, the contract is up, and Dish hikes rates again- Gosh, you know, I'd really like to be able to watch HD on my HD television (Even if it's only 720p). Something I'll be thinking about.

Anyhow, I'm with Dish for a reason right now. I like a lot of stuff about them. I'm just saying, $7 to get HD, secondary locals, not have to sign another contract (Critical for some), etc. might be worth it, especially if Dish is in a feud with your locals RSNs (Not the case with me, but certainly the case in some areas) and you mainly watch local sports on Dish.

Dish hasn't priced themselves *so much* lower that people are always going to ride out their favorite channels being dropped, not getting HD, paying for equipment, contracts, etc.. I mean, there probably is a price point where people would be like "Dish is so much cheaper, I don't care what the heck they do or don't do". I'd say that's around $40 a month, and unrealistic for them to hit price point wise.

I'm not sure the original case makes a slam dunk case for Dish. It's not like cable costs *a ton* more.


I tell you what if you want more than one DVR it does. I was with Time Warner for years and they nickel ed and dimed me to death. I had to pay two DVR service fees and 2 box rental fees. Not to mention before you add any programming or equipment there was a $5 franchise fee. So before I did decided what I wanted I already had a $5 fee.

After all that we switched to Direct and I enjoyed their service for a long time. It was nice having your first DVR free and only one DVR service fee. Plus no $5 franchise fee. I left Direct for Dish because we wanted a change and The Hopper is all they made it out to be. Best DVR we have ever had. I enjoy Dish's package selection and their Ala Cart.

So in the end I was way better off with Satellite service. I think Direct and Dish blow cable away. I still have Time Warner for Internet and yes they now charge a modem fee. I asked if I could just buy my own modem and use it. I was told sure but I would still have to pay the fee. I see why people call them Crime Warner now.
 

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