Today I took out the ol' 13 inch TV and my dead-battery DSR-410 and got the 5 footer locked on W5. The results were actually pretty good for a smaller dish like that. Between the dish not having ANY markings for az/el and the small size making it very touchy, we got it done! Now when my new DSR-410 comes next week we'll get a sub going and see how well this project will do.