Apple asks Google to turn over Android source code for its lawsuit against Samsung

[Poke]

Hmm wonder if they will.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...-code-for-its-lawsuit-against-Samsung_id42784

 

[John Kotches]

Hmm wonder if they will.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...-code-for-its-lawsuit-against-Samsung_id42784

Why does Apple need Google to "turn it over"?

mkdir android
cd android
repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git
repo sync
make

 

[truckracer]

Sounds like apple wants the android source code so they can do some patent infringing themselves. I used to be an iPhone fan boy but I have realized android has came a long way and works quite well. My next phone will be a galaxy s4.

 

[Hall]

Do they want to see if Google used any iOS code ? To have done that, Google would need access to that source...

 

[mike123abc]

Most of Android is open source. But, there are parts that are not open source, and that is probably what Apple wants access to.

 

[John Kotches]

Most of Android is open source. But, there are parts that are not open source, and that is probably what Apple wants access to.

And what stops Apple from lifting from that source?



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[John Kotches]

Do they want to see if Google used any iOS code ? To have done that, Google would need access to that source...

Duplicating functionality didn't needed identical code, there's more than one way to get to an operational function.

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[Hall]

And what stops Apple from lifting from that source?

They're allowed to. Nothing stops them so long as they abide by the license.

 

[Hall]

Duplicating functionality didn't needed identical code, there's more than one way to get to an operational function.

If this is a patent case, identical code isn't necessary when it comes to violations. If the end result is the same, a company can claim patent infringement.

 

[truckracer]

This is my opinion. I see a lot more android phones in people's hands nowdays. I remember when in a restaurant people either had a cheap crappy phone or an iPhone. In my area I am seeing a lot of new HTC and Samsung devices.

I think apple is on its way down. They are grasping at straws as they know they are going to drown in a sea of extinction.

 

[John Kotches]

If this is a patent case, identical code isn't necessary when it comes to violations. If the end result is the same, a company can claim patent infringement.

I can understand why you might be confused by my garbled phone typing.

We are on the same page, but I think that this is a reach myself.



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[John Kotches]

I think apple is on its way down. They are grasping at straws as they know they are going to drown in a sea of extinction.

They aren't going away, but IMO they are repeating the mistakes that makes them a niche player in the personal computer space.

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[mike123abc]

They aren't going away, but IMO they are repeating the mistakes that makes them a niche player in the personal computer space.

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Hardly a niche player. As usual Apple makes more money selling personal computers than the entire rest of the industry combined.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/04/16/mac_profits_are_high_too_high.html

Apple does not want to sell to everyone they just want to sell to those that will pay what Apple wants to charge.

 

[John Kotches]

Hardly a niche player. As usual Apple makes more money selling personal computers than the entire rest of the industry combined.
...

Apple does not want to sell to everyone they just want to sell to those that will pay what Apple wants to charge.

What would you define a 10% share since you don't consider it niche?

Of course Apple has every right to sell at whatever price they want, and the worldwide smartphone market is speaking.



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[mperdue]

What would you define a 10% share since you don't consider it niche?

I'd define it as the third largest share of the entire computer market. Ten percent market share (11.6 really) and 45% of the profits actually looks pretty good going forward.

 

[mike123abc]

What would you define a 10% share since you don't consider it niche?

Of course Apple has every right to sell at whatever price they want, and the worldwide smartphone market is speaking.

Perhaps a niche in OS, but in hardware being the 3rd largest PC vendor is not exactly niche.

Apple does need to come up with a new strategy for the phone market. Eventually they will not be the must have item and they will not be able to command such large subsidies from the providers.

 

[John Kotches]

Perhaps a niche in OS, but in hardware being the 3rd largest PC vendor is not exactly niche.

You're looking at individual vendors, I am looking at Mac OS vs Windows. That's the real issue. And yes, that is niche market territory. Too bad really, because many of us that are *nix professionals like the OS and would hate to see them drop out of the market.

Apple does need to come up with a new strategy for the phone market. Eventually they will not be the must have item and they will not be able to command such large subsidies from the providers.

They are in desperate need of one for the > 95% of the world's population that isn't the US.



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[truckracer]

What would you define a 10% share since you don't consider it niche?

Of course Apple has every right to sell at whatever price they want, and the worldwide smartphone market is speaking.

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I remember years ago Mac computers were very niche and I assume they still are. I would probably consider the iPhone mainstream (guessing). I see an incredible amour of android devices in this area. Here in wv, I doubt iPhone is king. I see a lot of galaxy devices, blackberry.

 

[Hall]

iPhones are definitely mainstream. Key is, mobile carriers give them to customers at low costs ($99, 199, etc).

As for Macs, if you lump it as Windows vs Macs, yes, Apple is a niche. If you look at it by vendor, I suspect they're in the top 5 (maybe?).

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[John Kotches]

They've been top 2 or 3 for a number of years.

But you have to look at it in as Windows vs Mac OS to make sense of the market

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